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(Geddy): Have a seat, Ernst.

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(Alex): I will. A great idea.

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(Geddy):
I brought something you love.

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(sighing and chuckling)

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- I think I should pour this.
- Yes.

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- Oh.
- Sip-sip at will.

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- Oh, I quit drinking...

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In my mind.

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- Okay, well
I can drink it all.

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- No, it’s okay,
I started again.

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- And I think we should--
- Let’s pour...

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- Yeah.
You wanna do these honours?

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- Oh, thank you.

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(cork squeaks)

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- Pour...
- Let’s see, two-right?

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- Two fingers, right?
- Two fat fingers.

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- My fingers
aren’t fat enough.

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- That was his favourite--

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- Have to use your fingers.
Wah wah.

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(quacking)

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- Yeah.

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- Cheers.
- Cheers.

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- And, cheers, bro.

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- Cheers, brat.

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- Bingo.

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Every day at 5:00
we’re in the studio, mixing.

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5:00 came...

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(Alex):
5:00 on the button.

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(Geddy): And he would
have two fat fingers.

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And every time we came
to see Neil over 40 years,

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the first thing he did
was go to the fridge,

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ask us if want an ice cube,

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and he’d pour the three of us

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two fat fingers of Macallan’s.

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- And his fingers got
fatter over the years.

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(laughing)
- That’s right.

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Aw...

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So that’s for him.

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- Yeah.

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The missing wingman.

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- The chair that’s not here.

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(soft music)

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(loud cheering and applause)

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- Our next guest is one
of the greatest drummers

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in all of rock ’n roll.

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Please welcome for the finale
of Drum Solo Week, Neil Peart.

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(drumming)

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(audience cheering)

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- Okay, for you, Rush, 2112,

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Neil Peart,
one of the great drummers

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of all time, study up.

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- Are you ready to
get your mind blown?

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- Do it!

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- You wanna get some
Neil Peart all up in ya?

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- I don’t know.

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(drumming)

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(Stewart):
Neil gets a good ride.

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Oh my god, you’re the best
drummer on the planet!

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Other drummers on the planet,
all the rest of us,

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there’s one deeper indignity
that we must face,

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which is that people
come up to us

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and say, my god,
it’s you, you’re my...

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second favourite drummer!

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Fucking Neil!

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(Gavin): Ranking drummers...

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God knows how many times
Neil must’ve won that.

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That’s how it came
onto my radar,

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it’s like, who’s this guy who
keep winning everything?

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I’d better check him out!

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(drumming)

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(cheering and applause)

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(Chad): The drum parts are
so iconic and technical

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hard, fast shit!

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And straight-faced!

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He was a fucking
stone-cold assassin!

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(playing rock music)

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(Matt): Neil was more
than just a drummer.

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He was fascinated
with all kinds of things.

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He did want each moment
to be pure and valuable.

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He wanted to find
the value in each person,

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each song,
each lyric, each word.

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(Doane): How do
you summarize a man

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who is had this epic life
on so many levels?

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Some great successes
and a lot of loss.

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To sum up
somebody like Neil...

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...it’s a daunting,
daunting task.

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(loud cheering)

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(loud cheering)

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(bass playing)

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(distorted guitar)

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(Geddy): Check, check.

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(Alex): Is that better
with the vocal, Geddy?

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- Little bit, yeah.

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Tiny bit more level
on the voice.

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Something that’s
always bothered me

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is after Neil passed away,

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we never really were able
to pay tribute to him

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in any gathering way.

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(Alex): We had a plan.

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- We had a plan to
do something here.

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- Pandemic came crashing in.

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- And everything
was locked down and...

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And that weighed
on me quite a lot.

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- Yeah.

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More keyboards
please, for Alex.

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(Geddy): For me,
Neil’s legacy,

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his importance
as a rock drummer...

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The way he blurred the lines

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between progressive rock,
jazz, pop, heavy metal,

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all those styles that
exist within our music.

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And the dogged drive
that he had,

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his unwillingness
to compromise,

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made him a drummer

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that really inspired
other drummers.

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Well!

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Look who’s here!

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(laughing)

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Neil loved his
drumming community.

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He loved drum brothers.

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Hey, man, how are you?
- Good, man.

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(Geddy): Drummers,
they’re like catchers,

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they’re like goalies.

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They see a kinship
in each other.

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So when we were thinking
of how to pay tribute to him,

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it made sense
to bring together

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his drummer friends for a jam.

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I mean,
we’re talking about guys

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that are monster drummers
in their own right.

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Bringing them together
to talk about drumming,

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about music,
to talk about Neil

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and what made him
unique as a musician.

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Feels like the right way
to honour his legacy.

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(drumming)

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(rock music playing)

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{\an8} (Geddy): Okay, this
is a louder drummer...

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- I’m loud.

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- It’s an honour
to have you here,

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to help us
pay tribute to the dude,

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wherever he may be.

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- Wherever he may be,
with his...

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- Wherever he may roam!
- Apples in his Macallan’s!

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- Yeah.

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(Chad): Riding motorcycles,
I hope.

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- Two fat fingers.

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(Chad): We were
on tour in Toronto,

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and I was
having lunch with Al,

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and he was like, yeah,
for this thing,

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we’re gonna do 2112
and Working Man,

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and I said, oh,
do you think it’d be okay

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if could I play Working Man
with you guys?

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And he’s like, yeah!
I mean, I would love it!

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That would be great.

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(drumming)

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I’m just so honoured to be
able to play with these guys

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and this music is so close to
my heart, and then of course,

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to honour my friend Neil
is just, like, on top of it

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is amazing.

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Maestro.

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Maestro.

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- Oh, yes sir. Ah.

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Ready?

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- Whenever you’re ready.

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(playing guitar)

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- Woo hoo hoo!

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(Geddy): We’re not ready.

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- That’s it, that’s the take.

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(chuckling)

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- Get out of the parking lot!

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{\an8}(playing ♪ Working Man ♪
by Rush)

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♪ I get up at seven, yeah,
and I go to work at nine ♪

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♪ I got no time for livin’ ♪

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♪ Yes, I’m workin’
all the time ♪

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♪ It seems to me
I could live my life ♪

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♪ Better than I think I am ♪

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♪ I guess that’s
why they call me ♪

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♪ Call me the working man ♪

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♪ They call me
the working man ♪

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♪ I guess that’s what I am ♪

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♪ When I get home
at five o’clock ♪

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♪ I take myself out a nice,
cold beer ♪

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♪ Always seem
to be wonderin’ ♪

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♪ Why there’s nothin’
goin’ down here ♪

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♪ It seems to me
I could live my life ♪

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♪ Better than I think I am ♪

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♪ I guess that’s
why they call me ♪

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♪ Call me the workin’ man ♪

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(cheering)

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♪ They call me
the working man ♪

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♪ I guess that’s what I am ♪

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(cheering)

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(Neil): When I started to get
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I was banging around
the house with chopsticks

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on my little sister’s playpen
and smashing up

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pots and pans
and my parents got the idea

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that I liked to hit things
with sticks.

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So, my 13th birthday,
they got me drum lessons.

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I practiced all the time
and continued to get better.

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And so once I got interested
in rock bands and all that

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and I was old enough
to quit high school...

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I wanted to be
a full-time musician,

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that’s all I thought about.

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Fortunately, I was in a very
serious band at the time.

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We did practice every day,
you know,

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we didn’t drop out
of school to be bums.

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We made some demos for record
companies in Toronto,

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but they gave us
the classic of those days,

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we don’t hear a single.

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So, you know, we were
up against this wall.

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(rock music)

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So as the band was
running into frustrations,

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I conceive this notion
that I would move to London

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and take my drums
and my records.

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The world view
that I took with me

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was that all I had to do
was get good

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and I would be successful.

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It was as simple as that.

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And I really believed
that’s how the world worked.

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That if I got good,
I would be successful.

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- I got an airmail
letter from Neil,

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and it was, I understand
you’re living in England,

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and I wanna come over
and further my musical career

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and can I come
and stay with you?

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{\an8}This was a big thing

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{\an8} for a, you know,
a St. Catharine’s boy, like,

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{\an8}as it was for myself,

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but here we are
in London, you know?

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And he’s gonna
give this a shot.

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(rock music)

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- I’d copied down a list
of record companies,

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booking agencies,
management companies,

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and so on from record jackets
out of my collection,

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and traipsed around to all
these offices in rainy London.

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(Doane): He told me
a funny story.

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{\an8}Somehow he had found out where
the Jethro Tull offices were

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{\an8}and he went into the office

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and asked if they were
looking for a drummer.

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This was the year when they
were between drummers.

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And it was kind of unlike Neil
to do something

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as forthright as that,
but he marched right in there,

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said I’m ready to go,
and the lady said,

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well, that’s not quite
how it’s done here,

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and thank you very much.

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- I always remember one
kind-hearted receptionist

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telling me,
Well, you’re very brave.

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In other words, you’re a fool!

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But I proceeded with that

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and eventually found
another job to keep me alive,

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which was working
in souvenir shops

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and poster shops
in Carnaby Street

253
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in Piccadilly Circus.

254
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Through that souvenir shop,
ironically, I met musicians

255
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that I got started with
in a band over there,

256
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and was able to do quite
a variety of different work,

257
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playing in pop cover groups

258
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and a little bit
of casual session work

259
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and doing auditions.

260
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(playing rock music)

261
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He got in
a couple of bands,

262
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and they got touring around.

263
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They played The Marquee.

264
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It’s the most amazing
club in London,

265
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the Rolling Stones,
Rory Gallagher, everybody.

266
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But bar bands, cover bands,
you don’t make any money.

267
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And we had to
pay bills, right?

268
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We had to live.

269
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(Neil): The gigs lasted
about two weeks,

270
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and then suddenly,

271
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there was no more work
and, you know,

272
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I was sharing
a bed-sitting room

273
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on the farthest extreme
of London

274
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with my friend Brad.

275
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Like, you know,
not able to pay rent,

276
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not able to buy food,

277
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and then really
facing poverty.

278
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- I could see he was
discouraged.

279
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And so, one day, he said,

280
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do you think we could
do acid on Saturday night?

281
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Which was... I said, sure!

282
00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:33,445
I don’t know...
Get some.

283
00:13:33,535 --> 00:13:35,775
Back then, the acid
was so strong,

284
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you would sort out
the entire universe,

285
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but the next day you’d forget.

286
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We didn’t forget this time.

287
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We figured out the meaning
of life right there.

288
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And the meaning of life is,

289
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you get up in the morning
and you go to work.

290
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You have to have
a sense of purpose,

291
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or you’re not going anywhere.

292
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♪ They call me
the working man ♪

293
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♪ I guess that’s what I am ♪

294
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(Neil): When I was in
the ferment of London

295
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in the professional
music business,

296
00:15:16,161 --> 00:15:17,961
it was very obvious
that things didn’t work out

297
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the way I thought they did
back in St. Catharine’s.

298
00:15:20,331 --> 00:15:22,401
Um, so that was a huge lesson.

299
00:15:22,501 --> 00:15:23,771
But it also forced me

300
00:15:23,861 --> 00:15:25,931
into another
life-changing decision...

301
00:15:26,031 --> 00:15:28,431
was that while I’d rather do
something else for a living

302
00:15:28,531 --> 00:15:31,071
and play the music I love,
you know, that was clear.

303
00:15:31,171 --> 00:15:32,441
I’d rather play down
in the basement,

304
00:15:32,541 --> 00:15:34,411
and play the music I like,
especially if I can get

305
00:15:34,511 --> 00:15:35,811
likeminded musicians
to do that.

306
00:15:35,911 --> 00:15:38,151
And I came back to
St. Catharine’s then

307
00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:39,811
and went to work
for my dad full-time

308
00:15:39,911 --> 00:15:41,951
at the farm equipment dealers
and played in bands at night.

309
00:15:42,051 --> 00:15:43,751
- I came home from England

310
00:15:43,851 --> 00:15:46,521
and we used to go for lunch
at this greasy spoon.

311
00:15:46,621 --> 00:15:47,991
You know, I pulled in
and he came out,

312
00:15:48,091 --> 00:15:49,591
and there was this
white Corvette,

313
00:15:49,691 --> 00:15:51,131
and it pulled in
the parking lot

314
00:15:51,221 --> 00:15:52,821
of the farm
equipment dealership.

315
00:15:52,931 --> 00:15:55,101
And I said, okay,
well, who is that?

316
00:15:55,191 --> 00:15:57,291
He said, did you ever hear
of a band called Rush?

317
00:15:57,401 --> 00:15:58,501
I said, nope.

318
00:15:58,601 --> 00:16:00,101
No, I’ve never
heard of them, sorry.

319
00:16:00,201 --> 00:16:01,671
Well, they’re going on tour

320
00:16:01,771 --> 00:16:03,711
and they’re looking
for a drummer.

321
00:16:03,801 --> 00:16:04,901
But...

322
00:16:05,001 --> 00:16:06,201
He knew.

323
00:16:06,311 --> 00:16:07,611
He knew this was the one.

324
00:16:07,711 --> 00:16:09,311
He knew this was...

325
00:16:09,411 --> 00:16:10,851
the chance.

326
00:16:10,941 --> 00:16:14,311
(Geddy): When he first
pulled up in his Pinto,

327
00:16:14,411 --> 00:16:16,251
and he bounded out
of the car

328
00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:18,521
with his drums
and garbage bags...

329
00:16:18,621 --> 00:16:20,961
My first thought was,
wow, what a goof.

330
00:16:21,051 --> 00:16:22,351
(chuckling)

331
00:16:22,461 --> 00:16:24,301
- Yeah, right.
- ’Cause he was tall and...

332
00:16:24,391 --> 00:16:25,831
And we were groovy.

333
00:16:25,931 --> 00:16:27,031
(Alex): And we were
totally groovy,

334
00:16:27,131 --> 00:16:29,531
we had belts
with big buckles and--

335
00:16:29,631 --> 00:16:30,871
- Bell-bottoms.
- Things like that.

336
00:16:30,961 --> 00:16:32,461
And I remember thinking,

337
00:16:32,571 --> 00:16:34,671
there’s no way this guy’s
cool enough to be in our band.

338
00:16:34,771 --> 00:16:36,711
Because he was
a tall, gangly...

339
00:16:36,801 --> 00:16:37,971
- Oh, yeah.

340
00:16:38,071 --> 00:16:40,241
- ...guy that looked
like so nerdy and...

341
00:16:40,341 --> 00:16:41,781
- But when he
started playing triplets...

342
00:16:41,871 --> 00:16:43,311
- That changed everything.
- He got really cool.

343
00:16:43,411 --> 00:16:44,511
- Yeah.
- Really fast.

344
00:16:44,611 --> 00:16:45,711
- So fast.

345
00:16:45,811 --> 00:16:47,581
- I met the guys
and we got talking,

346
00:16:47,681 --> 00:16:49,321
and the immediate things,
interestingly,

347
00:16:49,421 --> 00:16:51,461
were books and humour
that we started talking about.

348
00:16:51,551 --> 00:16:53,191
I remember talking about,
you know,

349
00:16:53,291 --> 00:16:54,291
we were 22 years old,

350
00:16:54,391 --> 00:16:56,391
1974, talking about
the Lord of the Rings

351
00:16:56,491 --> 00:16:57,861
and Monty Python.

352
00:16:57,961 --> 00:16:59,931
Actually, those were probably
the first two touchstones

353
00:17:00,031 --> 00:17:01,101
of the books we read

354
00:17:01,191 --> 00:17:02,661
and the things that
made us laugh.

355
00:17:02,761 --> 00:17:04,161
In retrospect,
that is so beautiful,

356
00:17:04,261 --> 00:17:05,561
the fact that we
played well together

357
00:17:05,671 --> 00:17:07,041
and we laughed well together.

358
00:17:07,131 --> 00:17:09,371
That’s the kind of thing
that might last 34 years.

359
00:17:09,471 --> 00:17:11,441
(laughing)

360
00:17:11,541 --> 00:17:14,411
(♪ Working Man ♪
by Rush continuing)

361
00:17:23,321 --> 00:17:25,461
(yelling)

362
00:17:37,861 --> 00:17:41,061
♪ Well it seems to me
I could live my life ♪

363
00:17:41,171 --> 00:17:44,211
♪ Better than I think I am ♪

364
00:17:44,301 --> 00:17:47,701
♪ I guess that’s
why they call me ♪

365
00:17:48,871 --> 00:17:52,911
♪ Why they call me
The workin’ man ♪

366
00:17:55,981 --> 00:17:59,281
♪ They call me
the workin’ man ♪

367
00:17:59,391 --> 00:18:02,261
♪ I guess that’s what I am ♪

368
00:18:06,991 --> 00:18:10,861
♪ Well they call me
the workin’ man ♪

369
00:18:12,731 --> 00:18:15,531
(vocalizing)

370
00:18:31,521 --> 00:18:34,461
(laughing)

371
00:18:34,551 --> 00:18:36,251
- Oh, sorry!

372
00:18:37,791 --> 00:18:39,091
(yelling)

373
00:18:39,191 --> 00:18:40,321
(Geddy): Throw it away!

374
00:18:40,431 --> 00:18:41,801
- Oh, awesome.

375
00:18:41,891 --> 00:18:43,961
(Geddy):
Throw it away. I quit!

376
00:18:44,061 --> 00:18:46,031
(chuckling)

377
00:18:46,131 --> 00:18:48,671
- You are the best.
- Thank you, guys.

378
00:18:48,771 --> 00:18:51,271
- I love you guys.
Bubba!

379
00:18:51,371 --> 00:18:53,841
(Geddy): Just love
that interaction...

380
00:18:53,941 --> 00:18:55,281
- Oh...

381
00:18:55,371 --> 00:18:57,541
- This is kind of song
is just like...

382
00:18:57,641 --> 00:18:59,781
It’s your fucking happy zone.
- Yes.

383
00:18:59,881 --> 00:19:01,951
- You can just feel it.
- Yeah.

384
00:19:02,051 --> 00:19:03,521
- This one, this one...
- Contagious.

385
00:19:03,621 --> 00:19:05,721
(Alex): Yeah, you
can really let loose.

386
00:19:05,821 --> 00:19:07,991
- I can... I see why you guys
have played it every night.

387
00:19:08,091 --> 00:19:10,291
I just love that it’s
from the beginning

388
00:19:10,391 --> 00:19:11,761
of what you guys did, and...

389
00:19:11,861 --> 00:19:13,161
- At first, when we
were talking about

390
00:19:13,261 --> 00:19:14,631
what songs to play,

391
00:19:14,731 --> 00:19:17,201
Working Man didn’t come
to mind because it’s pre-Neil,

392
00:19:17,301 --> 00:19:19,241
but he made it his own--

393
00:19:19,331 --> 00:19:20,831
- Yes, exactly.

394
00:19:20,931 --> 00:19:23,131
- And this version that we’re
playing really is his version.

395
00:19:23,241 --> 00:19:25,881
It’s his inspiration.
(Chad): Yes.

396
00:19:25,971 --> 00:19:28,571
- Because, how many years
did we play it, 40 years?

397
00:19:28,671 --> 00:19:29,971
- Yeah.
- With him?

398
00:19:30,081 --> 00:19:31,981
(Chad): Yeah, he owned it.

399
00:19:32,081 --> 00:19:33,751
- He owned it,
yeah, fucking right.

400
00:19:33,851 --> 00:19:36,221
- Do we have a version of him
singing it by any chance?

401
00:19:36,321 --> 00:19:37,661
(laughing)

402
00:19:37,751 --> 00:19:38,991
- Who?
- Neil singing it?

403
00:19:39,091 --> 00:19:40,461
I get up at 9 o’clock.

404
00:19:40,551 --> 00:19:41,991
(laughing)

405
00:19:42,091 --> 00:19:43,891
I do not like beer,
I will not drink the beer.

406
00:19:43,991 --> 00:19:45,461
And then I go to work.

407
00:19:46,591 --> 00:19:49,791
And that’s why they
call me the working man.

408
00:19:49,901 --> 00:19:52,001
- That’s why they call me
one of the guys at work.

409
00:19:52,101 --> 00:19:53,701
- Yeah, one of
the guys at work.

410
00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:55,341
- That was his favourite
expression.

411
00:19:55,431 --> 00:19:58,001
- Gotta go! Going to meet
the guys at work.

412
00:19:58,101 --> 00:20:01,001
Before we met Neil,
we were a bar band,

413
00:20:01,111 --> 00:20:02,581
and we wrote songs

414
00:20:02,681 --> 00:20:04,851
that made people jump
up and down in bars.

415
00:20:04,941 --> 00:20:07,581
I wanted to be
the greatest bass player

416
00:20:07,681 --> 00:20:09,081
I could possibly be,

417
00:20:09,181 --> 00:20:12,251
and lyrics were
just a hassle, man.

418
00:20:12,351 --> 00:20:15,791
So, when we noticed
how much Neil read

419
00:20:15,891 --> 00:20:17,531
and his verbosity,

420
00:20:17,621 --> 00:20:19,361
Al and I talked.

421
00:20:19,461 --> 00:20:21,431
(Alex): We approached him and
said, you know, we can see

422
00:20:21,531 --> 00:20:23,101
that you’re reading five
or six books a day.

423
00:20:23,201 --> 00:20:25,871
Maybe you should be
the guy who writes lyrics,

424
00:20:25,971 --> 00:20:28,571
you know, you have sort of
a background in literature

425
00:20:28,671 --> 00:20:29,911
and an interest...

426
00:20:30,001 --> 00:20:31,941
And I don’t know if
he was really keen

427
00:20:32,041 --> 00:20:33,781
on having that added pressure,

428
00:20:33,871 --> 00:20:36,371
but he agreed that he
would try it, and he started,

429
00:20:36,481 --> 00:20:38,251
and thank god he did.

430
00:20:38,341 --> 00:20:40,581
- The power of words
has been big for me

431
00:20:40,681 --> 00:20:42,121
since I was
a little kid, really,

432
00:20:42,211 --> 00:20:44,211
in grade one and grade two,
I was writing poems in school

433
00:20:44,321 --> 00:20:45,591
and reading voraciously.

434
00:20:45,681 --> 00:20:49,321
And lyric writing just started
as a little side bar for me.

435
00:20:49,421 --> 00:20:51,291
And coming into this band,
neither of the other two

436
00:20:51,391 --> 00:20:52,831
were much interested in it,
so I went, okay,

437
00:20:52,931 --> 00:20:53,901
I’ll have a go.

438
00:20:53,991 --> 00:20:56,061
Well, then,
having committed to it,

439
00:20:56,161 --> 00:20:58,361
then my father’s values
of if it’s worth doing,

440
00:20:58,461 --> 00:21:00,461
it’s worth doing well,

441
00:21:00,571 --> 00:21:02,171
and I got into the craft
of it, of course.

442
00:21:03,241 --> 00:21:08,223
(Geddy Lee singing)

443
00:21:10,953 --> 00:21:13,193
♪ Anthem of the heart
and mind ♪

444
00:21:13,293 --> 00:21:16,663
A funeral dirge
for eyes gone blind ♪

445
00:21:16,763 --> 00:21:19,463
Whatever he wrote,
I just tried to sing.

446
00:21:19,563 --> 00:21:21,403
I remember when he gave me

447
00:21:21,493 --> 00:21:23,063
Beneath, Between, and Behind,

448
00:21:23,163 --> 00:21:24,603
which was the first lyric
he wrote...

449
00:21:24,703 --> 00:21:26,703
I was thinking, my god,
how can I get all these words

450
00:21:26,803 --> 00:21:29,143
in one line, I mean,
it was just like rapid fire,

451
00:21:29,243 --> 00:21:31,813
and you wrote that
guitar riff, that...

452
00:21:31,903 --> 00:21:33,743
(humming)

453
00:21:33,843 --> 00:21:36,013
And it melded, it was like,
okay, this can work.

454
00:21:36,113 --> 00:21:37,713
I just have to
sing really fast.

455
00:21:37,813 --> 00:21:39,253
(laughing)

456
00:21:39,353 --> 00:21:41,853
(Neil): Coming into this band
at the tender age of 22,

457
00:21:41,953 --> 00:21:44,353
of course I still had a lot
of post-adolescent things

458
00:21:44,453 --> 00:21:46,793
and fantasy and science
fiction books, for sure.

459
00:21:46,893 --> 00:21:48,893
And Tolkien weaves
into the early stuff.

460
00:21:48,993 --> 00:21:51,133
A lot of metaphor and those
kind of flights of fancy

461
00:21:51,223 --> 00:21:53,663
that were, I think
the natural pre-occupations

462
00:21:53,763 --> 00:21:55,103
of a geeky young man.

463
00:21:55,193 --> 00:21:57,133
(Geddy): Starting with
Caress of Steel,

464
00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:00,703
a huge evolution
had taken place in Neil.

465
00:22:00,803 --> 00:22:02,903
And the things
he wanted to express.

466
00:22:03,003 --> 00:22:05,573
He started talking
about concepts.

467
00:22:05,673 --> 00:22:08,243
- And he would
bring lyrics in,

468
00:22:08,343 --> 00:22:09,583
and he wouldn’t just
bring a couple songs,

469
00:22:09,683 --> 00:22:11,523
he’d bring like
20 songs of lyrics.

470
00:22:11,613 --> 00:22:14,183
These-all great ideas,
all connected in some way.

471
00:22:14,283 --> 00:22:18,223
(Geddy): If it was going to be
a big C concept album

472
00:22:18,323 --> 00:22:20,593
like 2112,
Neil would say,

473
00:22:20,693 --> 00:22:22,763
I have this idea
to do this kind of thing,

474
00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:25,403
and what do you think
of an idea like that?

475
00:22:29,803 --> 00:22:31,473
(synth whirring)

476
00:22:31,563 --> 00:22:33,203
- Oh, cool.

477
00:22:37,403 --> 00:22:39,103
(inhales)

478
00:22:42,913 --> 00:22:45,983
(Alex): The year is 2112.

479
00:22:46,083 --> 00:22:49,353
It’s a better year than 2111.

480
00:22:49,453 --> 00:22:51,423
(laughing)

481
00:22:51,523 --> 00:22:55,063
It was a cold winter.
Followed by a decent summer.

482
00:22:55,153 --> 00:22:59,353
Then the plague hit.
Most everybody died.

483
00:22:59,463 --> 00:23:02,003
They couldn’t wait for 2113.

484
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:06,873
But who knows
what that’ll bring.

485
00:23:08,803 --> 00:23:10,543
- Two, three, four.

486
00:23:12,673 --> 00:23:15,743
(♪ 2112 Overture ♪ by Rush)

487
00:23:18,243 --> 00:23:19,943
- Ah.

488
00:23:25,553 --> 00:23:27,653
- It’s jumping in
one beat early.

489
00:23:27,753 --> 00:23:29,153
They’re all different spaces.

490
00:23:29,253 --> 00:23:32,893
- As long as we’re tapping our
feet at the right tempo...

491
00:23:32,993 --> 00:23:34,863
(all talking at once)

492
00:23:34,963 --> 00:23:36,403
- Yeah.

493
00:23:36,503 --> 00:23:38,743
- One, two, three, four--

494
00:23:38,833 --> 00:23:40,733
(Danny): You know
the beginning of the song,

495
00:23:40,833 --> 00:23:42,533
but then when
you gotta play it,

496
00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:44,133
you gotta know
how many counts,

497
00:23:44,243 --> 00:23:46,513
how many
repetitions of this, and...

498
00:23:46,613 --> 00:23:48,253
I thought maybe they
just looked at each other

499
00:23:48,343 --> 00:23:49,583
and hit the beats, you know?

500
00:23:49,683 --> 00:23:51,083
I didn’t know it was in time!

501
00:23:51,183 --> 00:23:52,853
It makes it a challenge.

502
00:23:52,953 --> 00:23:54,293
You think you know it,
but you don’t

503
00:23:54,383 --> 00:23:55,953
until you actually play it.

504
00:23:56,053 --> 00:23:57,553
Let’s do it from
the top again--

505
00:23:57,653 --> 00:23:59,193
- It’s idiosyncratic...
- Yeah.

506
00:23:59,283 --> 00:24:01,823
- It’s done to make it
difficult to remember.

507
00:24:01,923 --> 00:24:03,523
(laughing)

508
00:24:03,623 --> 00:24:04,923
So we succeeded!

509
00:24:05,023 --> 00:24:06,263
(laughing)

510
00:24:06,363 --> 00:24:08,703
- 2112, I can remember
right where I was

511
00:24:08,793 --> 00:24:11,793
that first time I heard it,
you know? So it’s...

512
00:24:11,903 --> 00:24:13,573
Good music does that,
you know,

513
00:24:13,673 --> 00:24:15,943
it can bring you back
to that point every time.

514
00:24:16,043 --> 00:24:17,343
When I was a little kid,

515
00:24:17,443 --> 00:24:19,083
camping out to go
and see them,

516
00:24:19,173 --> 00:24:21,443
this seems so far
away, you know?

517
00:24:21,543 --> 00:24:23,883
It’s a whole ’nother world.
What a thrill, you know?

518
00:24:23,983 --> 00:24:26,023
I’m still, like,
pinching myself, going, wow,

519
00:24:26,113 --> 00:24:27,353
did I get to do that?
(laughing)

520
00:24:30,423 --> 00:24:34,093
(♪ 2112 Overture ♪ continues)

521
00:24:34,993 --> 00:24:36,993
- Was that right?
Was I wrong?

522
00:24:38,463 --> 00:24:41,003
- Uh... I-I don’t know.

523
00:24:41,093 --> 00:24:42,763
I played it right,
I know that.

524
00:24:42,863 --> 00:24:44,103
(laughing)

525
00:24:44,203 --> 00:24:46,603
(♪ 2112 Overture ♪ continues)

526
00:24:52,913 --> 00:24:54,483
(Geddy): Ah, that was great!

527
00:24:54,573 --> 00:24:56,043
- Yeah, that was pretty
good that time.

528
00:24:56,143 --> 00:24:58,183
- Yeah, you got it.
- I think so.

529
00:24:58,283 --> 00:24:59,723
- Alright, let’s have lunch.

530
00:24:59,813 --> 00:25:01,913
(laughing)

531
00:25:02,013 --> 00:25:04,113
- One, two, three...

532
00:25:05,583 --> 00:25:08,653
{\an8}(♪ 2112 Overture ♪ by Rush)

533
00:25:46,093 --> 00:25:48,263
- One, two, three, four!

534
00:26:31,061 --> 00:26:35,531
(Neil): 2112 was inspired by
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand.

535
00:26:35,631 --> 00:26:37,031
It really spoke to me.

536
00:26:37,141 --> 00:26:38,611
There was this
great validation

537
00:26:38,701 --> 00:26:41,871
of doing things honestly,
idealistically, romantically

538
00:26:41,971 --> 00:26:44,511
that was absolutely
the fundamental essence

539
00:26:44,611 --> 00:26:45,851
of 2112.

540
00:26:45,941 --> 00:26:47,811
’Cause we had been coming
under tremendous pressure

541
00:26:47,911 --> 00:26:50,211
by the record company
to be more commercial

542
00:26:50,321 --> 00:26:51,421
and to compromise our music

543
00:26:51,521 --> 00:26:53,061
and to repeat
the chorus more times

544
00:26:53,151 --> 00:26:54,491
and to write some singles.

545
00:26:54,591 --> 00:26:57,031
But nothing was going to
change what we wanted.

546
00:26:57,121 --> 00:27:02,461
Nobody could say to me, oh,
you should play more simply.

547
00:27:02,561 --> 00:27:06,001
(Geddy):
2112 was the first album

548
00:27:06,101 --> 00:27:10,241
we really shaped all
of the music to the story.

549
00:27:10,341 --> 00:27:13,241
And, of course, the very last
thing we wrote for that album

550
00:27:13,341 --> 00:27:15,281
was the Overture,

551
00:27:15,371 --> 00:27:18,041
which is how
an overture is created.

552
00:27:18,141 --> 00:27:20,881
It takes all the themes
that exist in the opera,

553
00:27:20,981 --> 00:27:22,651
and you combine them
and make an overture

554
00:27:22,751 --> 00:27:25,321
that introduce you
to those musical themes.

555
00:27:25,421 --> 00:27:28,261
And it was Neil’s idea
to do an overture.

556
00:27:28,351 --> 00:27:30,051
Let’s take all these pieces

557
00:27:30,161 --> 00:27:32,361
and put it together
in one really cool opening.

558
00:27:32,461 --> 00:27:34,531
(♪ 2112 Overture ♪ continues)

559
00:28:07,591 --> 00:28:09,731
(laughing)

560
00:28:13,771 --> 00:28:16,611
- Great.
That fucking rocked.

561
00:28:16,701 --> 00:28:18,771
That was fun.
- Pretty good, yeah.

562
00:28:18,871 --> 00:28:20,371
- That was fucking fun.
- Awesome.

563
00:28:20,471 --> 00:28:22,541
- That’s called throwing you
into the deep end.

564
00:28:22,641 --> 00:28:24,241
(laughing)

565
00:28:24,341 --> 00:28:27,411
- Yeah, that beginning
was tricky, man.

566
00:28:27,511 --> 00:28:28,851
God, sorry it
took so long to--

567
00:28:28,951 --> 00:28:30,821
- It’s, you know, it’s
the nature of our music.

568
00:28:30,921 --> 00:28:33,621
- Yeah, it’s amazing when I
started analyzing this stuff,

569
00:28:33,721 --> 00:28:36,961
God, just how genius,
you know, Neil’s parts were.

570
00:28:37,061 --> 00:28:39,631
It’s like, it always builds
in some clever way--

571
00:28:39,731 --> 00:28:40,901
- Yes.

572
00:28:40,991 --> 00:28:42,331
- When it comes
back around again,

573
00:28:42,431 --> 00:28:44,131
he adds this here or there,
or you know...

574
00:28:44,231 --> 00:28:46,171
It was always
a little more complicated.

575
00:28:46,271 --> 00:28:48,441
It’s always moving forward
in the coolest way.

576
00:28:48,531 --> 00:28:50,901
Of all the drummers we know,

577
00:28:51,001 --> 00:28:53,001
we think you are more
closely aligned

578
00:28:53,111 --> 00:28:55,711
with his sort
of musical spirit.

579
00:28:55,811 --> 00:28:58,511
- In the compositional way
for sure, like I said,

580
00:28:58,611 --> 00:29:00,611
when you’re just making
things build and...

581
00:29:00,711 --> 00:29:02,311
And the arrangement
part of it too, you know,

582
00:29:02,411 --> 00:29:04,281
we’re using toms in this
part or that part

583
00:29:04,381 --> 00:29:06,121
to make it grow
in the proper way...

584
00:29:06,221 --> 00:29:08,921
(Chad): To me, Neil
approached the music

585
00:29:09,021 --> 00:29:10,921
like a classical
piece of music.

586
00:29:11,021 --> 00:29:15,361
The precision,
the musicality, the power.

587
00:29:15,461 --> 00:29:18,531
His drum parts were so
integral to the arrangement,

588
00:29:18,631 --> 00:29:21,031
and they were musical hooks.

589
00:29:21,131 --> 00:29:23,101
Which, for drumming,
a rhythmic instrument,

590
00:29:23,201 --> 00:29:26,201
is not very, you know...
doesn’t happen all the time.

591
00:29:26,311 --> 00:29:28,051
- I always explain it
in terms of timing.

592
00:29:28,141 --> 00:29:30,381
I started playing
drums in 1965.

593
00:29:30,481 --> 00:29:33,481
When all you had to do was
go boom-bop-bop-boom-bop.

594
00:29:33,581 --> 00:29:35,021
And you were a drummer.

595
00:29:35,111 --> 00:29:36,711
And then suddenly,
in the late 60s,

596
00:29:36,821 --> 00:29:38,591
Keith Moon opened my eyes
to a whole new style

597
00:29:38,681 --> 00:29:40,351
of flamboyant drumming.

598
00:29:40,451 --> 00:29:42,191
And then, King Crimson
I remember getting aware of

599
00:29:42,291 --> 00:29:43,791
very early on.

600
00:29:43,891 --> 00:29:45,261
Michael Giles’ drumming
is so active

601
00:29:45,361 --> 00:29:46,861
5yet so musical on there.

602
00:29:46,961 --> 00:29:49,261
The combination of fills,
never mind the frequency,

603
00:29:49,361 --> 00:29:50,561
never repeated himself,

604
00:29:50,661 --> 00:29:52,061
here are permanent
lessons for me.

605
00:29:52,161 --> 00:29:53,561
Never play
the same fill twice,

606
00:29:53,671 --> 00:29:55,841
which I try, you know,
devotedly to do.

607
00:29:55,931 --> 00:29:57,631
And the makeup of those fills,

608
00:29:57,741 --> 00:29:59,981
the composition
and placement of those fills.

609
00:30:00,071 --> 00:30:02,711
- The lasting influence
for me with Neil

610
00:30:02,811 --> 00:30:05,011
is how good a designer...

611
00:30:05,111 --> 00:30:08,011
...a rhythmic designer he was.

612
00:30:08,111 --> 00:30:10,911
I’ve very carefully
studied the songs

613
00:30:11,021 --> 00:30:12,821
that I’m gonna play
with Alex and Geddy.

614
00:30:12,921 --> 00:30:15,791
And I wrote out
a very detailed chart

615
00:30:15,891 --> 00:30:17,091
of the whole thing.

616
00:30:17,191 --> 00:30:19,191
Then, as I started
to play along with it,

617
00:30:19,291 --> 00:30:20,591
I can clearly see,

618
00:30:20,691 --> 00:30:23,431
there’s an extra layer
in this verse

619
00:30:23,531 --> 00:30:25,101
that wasn’t
in the first verse.

620
00:30:25,201 --> 00:30:27,901
And it’s really when you
get into the details of it

621
00:30:28,001 --> 00:30:30,171
that you realize
how much thought

622
00:30:30,271 --> 00:30:32,141
went into every drum part.

623
00:30:32,241 --> 00:30:35,941
There’s no extra fat lying
around, it’s all very lean.

624
00:30:36,041 --> 00:30:39,241
(♪ Dreamline ♪ by Rush)

625
00:30:41,751 --> 00:30:43,591
♪ He’s got a road map
of Jupiter ♪

626
00:30:43,681 --> 00:30:46,021
♪ A radar fix on the stars ♪

627
00:30:46,121 --> 00:30:48,091
♪ All along the highway ♪

628
00:30:48,191 --> 00:30:50,631
♪ She’s got
a liquid-crystal compass ♪

629
00:30:50,721 --> 00:30:54,491
♪ A picture book of the rivers
Under the Sahara ♪

630
00:30:59,461 --> 00:31:01,831
♪ They travel in the time
of the prophets ♪

631
00:31:01,931 --> 00:31:06,331
♪ On a desert highway straight
to the heart of the sun ♪

632
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,920
♪ Like lovers and heroes ♪

633
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:15,690
♪ And the restless
part of everyone ♪

634
00:31:15,790 --> 00:31:19,290
♪ We’re only at home
when we’re on the run ♪

635
00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:23,070
♪ On the run ♪

636
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
♪ He’s got a star map
of Hollywood ♪

637
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:32,300
♪ A list of cheap motels ♪

638
00:31:32,410 --> 00:31:34,510
♪ All along the freeway ♪

639
00:31:34,610 --> 00:31:36,680
♪ She’s got a sister
out in Vegas ♪

640
00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:38,880
♪ The promise
of a decent job ♪

641
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:42,120
♪ Far away from her hometown ♪

642
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:48,250
♪ They travel on the road
to redemption ♪

643
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,900
♪ A highway out of yesterday ♪

644
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:53,960
♪ That tomorrow will bring ♪

645
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:58,100
♪ Like lovers and heroes ♪

646
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,740
♪ Birds in the last
days of spring ♪

647
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,450
♪ We’re only at home
When we’re on the wing ♪

648
00:32:06,570 --> 00:32:08,710
♪ On the wing ♪

649
00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:11,680
(Gavin): The first time
I heard Dreamline, I thought,

650
00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:13,550
I’ll just write out where
the bass drum notes are.

651
00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:15,350
Well, it doesn’t repeat.

652
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:19,750
These are all individually
written to follow the vocals.

653
00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:22,690
- When we would present him
with a piece of music,

654
00:32:22,790 --> 00:32:25,730
if he loved the melody,
he was a slave to that melody.

655
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:28,370
That’s why it’s hard
to explain to a drummer,

656
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:30,430
when they’re trying
to learn a Rush song.

657
00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:32,400
Why is he playing
what he’s playing?

658
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:33,670
Well, listen to the vocal.

659
00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:36,310
He’s trying to stay
out of the way of the vocal,

660
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,540
at the same help express
the emotion of the vocal

661
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,980
through his drums.

662
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,150
(Neil): Another thing
I love about the relationship

663
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,680
between drumming
and lyric writing

664
00:32:44,780 --> 00:32:46,620
is when we start
to write a song

665
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,850
and I’m working out
a drum part,

666
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:49,290
I know the lyrics.

667
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,420
You know, I’ve heard of
ridiculous stories of bands

668
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,490
recording a whole song
and then having to redo it

669
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:55,290
because when the lyrics
were finally written

670
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:57,390
as the last possible
thing as the vocals

671
00:32:57,490 --> 00:32:59,130
are being recorded,
they didn’t fit.

672
00:32:59,230 --> 00:33:02,130
And the drummer’s having
to be so simplistic

673
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:03,870
because who knows where
the lyrics are gonna fall,

674
00:33:03,970 --> 00:33:05,470
they don’t wanna be
in the way of them.

675
00:33:05,570 --> 00:33:06,810
Then all you can do
is keep time,

676
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:08,600
and you wouldn’t dare
put a fill somewhere,

677
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,070
because there might
be words there.

678
00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:12,010
I loved the fact I know
when the vocals are gonna end

679
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:13,780
so I can make
some noise there!

680
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,080
♪ We travel on the road
to adventure ♪

681
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,950
♪ On a desert highway ♪

682
00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:22,950
♪ Straight to the heart
of the sun ♪

683
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,260
♪ Like lovers and heroes ♪

684
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,100
♪ And the restless
part of everyone ♪

685
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:35,030
♪ We’re only at home
when we’re on the run ♪

686
00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:38,160
♪ On the run ♪

687
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:45,840
(laughing)

688
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:47,480
(drumming)

689
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,580
- Awesome.
- Whew!

690
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,250
- I don’t think I made
too many mistakes.

691
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:53,250
- No, you were spot on.

692
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:54,850
- I thought it was
really good.

693
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:57,450
- Robert Fripp always used to
say, there will be mistakes.

694
00:33:57,550 --> 00:33:59,490
Let’s try to make
a better quality mistake.

695
00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:01,060
- Oh, I like that.

696
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,660
- That is good.
- Yeah. And there were.

697
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,660
- Yeah.
- There always will be.

698
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,200
- They were the best mistakes.
- Of course.

699
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:11,440
- The most memorable things
that happen on the stage,

700
00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:14,470
as you know, is when you have
that train wreck for a moment,

701
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:17,640
and everyone’s looking around
going, who do I follow?

702
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:18,980
(chuckling)

703
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:21,110
- But then it suddenly
comes back.

704
00:34:21,210 --> 00:34:24,010
- It’s usually the bass player
that sorts it out.

705
00:34:24,110 --> 00:34:25,480
But nobody’s listening to
the bass player,

706
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:27,380
that’s the problem.

707
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,350
(♪ Dreamline ♪ continues)

708
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,900
(Alex): Neil seldom made
a mistake, really.

709
00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:53,980
If there was a little blooper,
something minor,

710
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,920
we wouldn’t really notice it.

711
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:58,710
That put pressure on me
to make sure I played right.

712
00:34:58,810 --> 00:35:02,480
I always felt better
if I knew I had a good night

713
00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:04,720
’cause I kept up
to his standard.

714
00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:06,290
Some so much with Ged.

715
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:08,460
There’s something
that’s a little more.

716
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,200
- Shitty?
- No, no, no.

717
00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:12,360
There’s something that’s
a little more live and looser

718
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:14,099
but the way we
were responded.

719
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,099
Cause I’ll come over
to Ged’s side of stage

720
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,640
and we’ll goof around
and, you know,

721
00:35:18,730 --> 00:35:20,400
he might make a clunker
while you’re doing that.

722
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:21,770
It’s no big deal,
you don’t care.

723
00:35:21,870 --> 00:35:23,610
But you look over at Neil,
you’re like...

724
00:35:23,710 --> 00:35:25,080
You played that note wrong.

725
00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:29,010
Yeah, but I was kissing him
when I played that note wrong.

726
00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:31,110
You know, take it easy.

727
00:35:31,210 --> 00:35:32,580
(laughter)

728
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,650
But there would be a sense
of living up to his standard

729
00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:36,190
which was good.

730
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,380
(Stewart): One time
I had to talk him down,

731
00:35:38,490 --> 00:35:40,260
he was distraught,
he was destroyed.

732
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,530
He was doing the Letterman
Drum Solo Week

733
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:45,090
and on national TV
and he dropped a drumstick--

734
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:47,130
(gasps)
Oh my god. My god. My--

735
00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:48,570
Dude, dude, dude.

736
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:51,100
I drop drumsticks
almost every song,

737
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,340
it’s part of my act.

738
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:54,970
Drop a drumstick,
pick up another one,

739
00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:56,440
chuck it, you know.

740
00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,480
- We would talk about
mistakes sometimes

741
00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:01,640
and I had the steel trap
memory for a lot of things

742
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:04,810
and I could remember
a mistake I made in a song,

743
00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:07,510
what venue it was,
what tour

744
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:10,460
and Neil said, oh, yeah,
I remember that,

745
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:12,420
we were in Frankfurt
or something.

746
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,290
And I realized, oh, yeah,
he has his catalog too.

747
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:18,890
I mean, that’s the flipside of
having a really good memory

748
00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:21,130
because you go, well,
I won’t do that again.

749
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:23,730
It will be something
that you learn from.

750
00:36:31,548 --> 00:36:33,018
(Neil): It matters

751
00:36:33,118 --> 00:36:34,958
for me to try to play
better all the time

752
00:36:35,048 --> 00:36:36,518
and to play
my best all the time,

753
00:36:36,618 --> 00:36:38,318
to keep it fresh and changing.

754
00:36:38,418 --> 00:36:40,958
It’s kind of responsibility,
I see it as a drummer.

755
00:36:41,058 --> 00:36:44,258
A perfect example
was around 1994,

756
00:36:44,358 --> 00:36:47,198
I had developed really
good precision of time

757
00:36:47,298 --> 00:36:50,498
but I felt a stiffness because
of that metronomic need.

758
00:36:50,598 --> 00:36:52,498
And so, I studied
with Freddy Groover,

759
00:36:52,598 --> 00:36:54,198
an old jazz guy from the Bronx

760
00:36:54,308 --> 00:36:55,908
who lived through
the jazz times

761
00:36:56,008 --> 00:36:58,378
of the ’40s and ’50s
and gravitated into teaching.

762
00:36:58,478 --> 00:37:00,118
And Freddy is all
about the motion.

763
00:37:00,208 --> 00:37:01,878
And it was all
about the motion

764
00:37:01,978 --> 00:37:03,108
of the hands and feet

765
00:37:03,208 --> 00:37:04,808
that contributed to a dance.

766
00:37:04,918 --> 00:37:08,158
Through Freddy’s ideas
of round orbital motion,

767
00:37:08,248 --> 00:37:09,748
a beat being
a point in a circle

768
00:37:09,848 --> 00:37:11,588
rather than a dot on a line,

769
00:37:11,688 --> 00:37:14,188
he got me into the idea
of making things flow,

770
00:37:14,288 --> 00:37:16,628
the space between
the beats is what counts.

771
00:37:16,728 --> 00:37:18,368
I used to play
straight through the drum

772
00:37:18,458 --> 00:37:20,728
aiming for the floor so all
beats were just going

773
00:37:20,828 --> 00:37:22,198
through the surface
of the drum head,

774
00:37:22,298 --> 00:37:23,638
with Freddy’s approach,

775
00:37:23,738 --> 00:37:25,138
the drum head
is the end of the motion,

776
00:37:25,238 --> 00:37:26,638
everything happens in the air.

777
00:37:26,738 --> 00:37:29,778
- Unfortunately, a lot of pop
music is played like that.

778
00:37:29,868 --> 00:37:31,668
It’s extremely vertical.

779
00:37:31,778 --> 00:37:34,118
{\an8}It’s like people slapping
water when they swim.

780
00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:35,808
{\an8}(Neil): Mm, yeah.

781
00:37:35,908 --> 00:37:37,308
{\an8}- It doesn’t--

782
00:37:37,418 --> 00:37:39,218
{\an8}(Neil): Inefficient motion.
- Breathe.

783
00:37:39,318 --> 00:37:40,988
- Hand me those lumps
of wood for a second,

784
00:37:41,088 --> 00:37:42,428
I got a demonstration.

785
00:37:42,518 --> 00:37:44,018
- If you were playing...

786
00:37:45,358 --> 00:37:46,958
I just wanted to make
his skin crawl there

787
00:37:47,058 --> 00:37:49,098
but that’s metronomically
fine time,

788
00:37:49,188 --> 00:37:50,318
but when you learn...

789
00:37:54,668 --> 00:37:56,808
- Let’s put it this way,
if you’re not breathing,

790
00:37:59,798 --> 00:38:01,338
it’s not alive.

791
00:38:03,308 --> 00:38:04,548
You know?

792
00:38:04,638 --> 00:38:06,838
So you gotta at least put
the breath in there, huh?

793
00:38:06,948 --> 00:38:09,788
(Neil): I had three separate
six month sessions with Freddy

794
00:38:09,878 --> 00:38:12,348
and practicing every day,
completely reinventing the way

795
00:38:12,448 --> 00:38:14,348
I sat at the drums,
the way I hit the drums,

796
00:38:14,448 --> 00:38:15,818
the way I held the sticks,

797
00:38:15,918 --> 00:38:17,618
the way I set up
everything around me

798
00:38:17,718 --> 00:38:19,218
was a complete transformation.

799
00:38:19,318 --> 00:38:22,418
- Here’s one of the greatest

800
00:38:22,528 --> 00:38:24,628
rock ’n’ roll drummers ever,

801
00:38:24,728 --> 00:38:27,798
decides to start from scratch.

802
00:38:27,898 --> 00:38:31,038
He cared so much
about getting better

803
00:38:31,138 --> 00:38:33,078
and thinking about other ways

804
00:38:33,168 --> 00:38:35,668
that I can be a student
of the instrument.

805
00:38:35,768 --> 00:38:39,038
(upbeat jazz music)

806
00:38:43,748 --> 00:38:47,318
- He did the Buddy Rich thing
and it’s very big band.

807
00:38:47,418 --> 00:38:48,958
(humming drum tune)

808
00:38:49,048 --> 00:38:51,148
He’s like, I been rehearsing
with Pete Erskine.

809
00:38:51,258 --> 00:38:53,258
This is after
the Freddy Groover stuff.

810
00:38:53,358 --> 00:38:55,298
So I was like, oh,
and he goes,

811
00:38:55,388 --> 00:38:57,488
well, I’ve been taking
lessons every week

812
00:38:57,598 --> 00:38:59,098
and we’re still
on the high hat.

813
00:38:59,198 --> 00:39:01,138
(laughter)

814
00:39:01,228 --> 00:39:03,598
He goes, because I have
that Canadian swing.

815
00:39:03,698 --> 00:39:04,968
(laughing)

816
00:39:05,068 --> 00:39:08,008
- The white Canadian swing.
- Right.

817
00:39:08,108 --> 00:39:10,608
(Chad): Neil putting that
much time and energy

818
00:39:10,708 --> 00:39:13,948
into recreating
his whole technique,

819
00:39:14,048 --> 00:39:18,318
to me it shows how
obsessed he was maybe.

820
00:39:18,418 --> 00:39:19,918
I don’t know
if there’s a better word.

821
00:39:20,018 --> 00:39:21,688
But this is a guy who would go

822
00:39:21,788 --> 00:39:24,528
and rehearse for
months by himself

823
00:39:24,618 --> 00:39:28,518
before the band would rehearse
for months for a tour.

824
00:39:28,628 --> 00:39:31,128
{\an8}- We called it rehearsing
for rehearsing.

825
00:39:31,228 --> 00:39:33,098
{\an8}(laughter)

826
00:39:33,198 --> 00:39:35,368
{\an8}So, and it was a full month

827
00:39:35,468 --> 00:39:37,838
and it was somewhat business
hours, Monday to Friday.

828
00:39:37,938 --> 00:39:40,408
In a studio, I would be
programming

829
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:43,748
the electronic drums for him
while he basically

830
00:39:43,838 --> 00:39:46,508
put himself through torture
getting his hands in shape.

831
00:39:46,608 --> 00:39:48,278
By the end of the first week

832
00:39:48,378 --> 00:39:50,418
his hands would be
all blistered up.

833
00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:52,888
It was a painful experience
for him for awhile.

834
00:39:59,788 --> 00:40:01,728
(Geddy): That sounds fun.

835
00:40:01,828 --> 00:40:03,128
(Stewart): It is fun.

836
00:40:03,228 --> 00:40:06,068
- I just got to remember how
to play the fucking song.

837
00:40:06,158 --> 00:40:07,328
- Oh, yeah.

838
00:40:07,428 --> 00:40:09,198
Must’ve been
one of your staples.

839
00:40:09,298 --> 00:40:12,268
- You know, we haven’t
played this one live in...

840
00:40:12,368 --> 00:40:14,068
(Stewart): Actually, they did
send me Bravado

841
00:40:14,168 --> 00:40:15,568
and New World Man

842
00:40:15,668 --> 00:40:18,068
and I’m listening to
New World Man and...

843
00:40:18,178 --> 00:40:20,278
No, that sounds like a lot
of work, I’ll do the easy one

844
00:40:20,378 --> 00:40:22,518
and then I listen to it again
and then I tried playing it

845
00:40:22,608 --> 00:40:23,608
and said, no, wait a minute,

846
00:40:23,718 --> 00:40:25,158
this is right in
my comfort zone.

847
00:40:25,248 --> 00:40:27,688
It’s energetic but it’s, uh,
I like that. Let’s play this.

848
00:40:27,788 --> 00:40:30,288
- So, the ending
we were doing...

849
00:40:33,388 --> 00:40:36,188
(Stewart): The drum fills are
not challenging to play,

850
00:40:36,288 --> 00:40:37,458
they’re challenging
to remember

851
00:40:37,558 --> 00:40:39,798
and that was the
hardest part is, you know--

852
00:40:39,898 --> 00:40:41,938
Oh, shit! It’s coming up now!
It’s coming up now!

853
00:40:42,028 --> 00:40:44,698
That’s just contrary
to my instincts

854
00:40:44,798 --> 00:40:46,338
as banging drums,

855
00:40:46,438 --> 00:40:48,208
you know,
is not a thinking person

856
00:40:48,308 --> 00:40:50,908
but it goes entirely
against the grain.

857
00:40:51,008 --> 00:40:52,948
But if this is for Neil,
I’m going to play them

858
00:40:53,038 --> 00:40:54,938
just the way
the professor did.

859
00:40:56,278 --> 00:40:59,218
- Bah! Bah! Bah!

860
00:41:00,418 --> 00:41:02,488
(rhythmic rock music)

861
00:41:02,588 --> 00:41:04,328
- I like that. Yeah.

862
00:41:04,418 --> 00:41:06,058
One, doodle, doodle,
two doodle, doodle,

863
00:41:06,158 --> 00:41:08,828
three, doodle, doodle, four...

864
00:41:09,958 --> 00:41:12,228
- Now we can do a big
bam-boom if you want

865
00:41:12,328 --> 00:41:13,698
or let it ring out.

866
00:41:13,798 --> 00:41:16,168
- Wow. Washing out.
Folks love washing out.

867
00:41:22,108 --> 00:41:25,308
(♪ New World Man ♪ by Rush)

868
00:41:44,998 --> 00:41:46,938
♪ He’s a rebel and a runner ♪

869
00:41:48,128 --> 00:41:50,068
♪ He’s a signal
turning green ♪

870
00:41:50,168 --> 00:41:52,708
♪ He’s a restless
young romantic ♪

871
00:41:52,798 --> 00:41:54,298
♪ Wants to run
the big machine ♪

872
00:41:56,308 --> 00:41:58,578
♪ He’s got a problem
with his poisons ♪

873
00:41:58,678 --> 00:42:01,118
♪ But you know
he’ll find a cure ♪

874
00:42:03,008 --> 00:42:05,348
♪ He’s cleaning up
the systems ♪

875
00:42:05,448 --> 00:42:08,818
♪ To keep his nature pure ♪

876
00:42:15,058 --> 00:42:19,258
♪ Learning to match the beat
of the old-world man ♪

877
00:42:21,068 --> 00:42:25,338
♪ Learning to catch the heat
of the third-world man ♪

878
00:42:33,178 --> 00:42:35,578
♪ He’s got to make
his own mistakes ♪

879
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:38,418
♪ And learn to mend
the mess he makes ♪

880
00:42:38,518 --> 00:42:41,388
♪ He’s old enough
to know what’s right ♪

881
00:42:41,488 --> 00:42:43,888
♪ And young enough
not to choose it ♪

882
00:42:43,988 --> 00:42:47,158
♪ He’s noble enough
to win the world ♪

883
00:42:47,258 --> 00:42:50,198
♪ But weak enough
to lose it ♪

884
00:42:50,288 --> 00:42:54,328
♪ He’s a new world man ♪

885
00:42:58,398 --> 00:43:00,468
(Neil): Coming through
the ’70s, of course,

886
00:43:00,568 --> 00:43:02,138
there was a huge revolution
in popular music

887
00:43:02,238 --> 00:43:03,978
with punk and new wave
coming in.

888
00:43:04,078 --> 00:43:06,418
And those who ignored it
were made irrelevant.

889
00:43:06,508 --> 00:43:09,108
But we young enough
and adaptable enough

890
00:43:09,208 --> 00:43:10,408
to embrace that.

891
00:43:10,518 --> 00:43:12,988
And I was a huge fan
of music in the late ’70s,

892
00:43:13,078 --> 00:43:16,078
early ’80s and the tendency
toward tighter songs

893
00:43:16,188 --> 00:43:17,888
and wanted it in my drumming,

894
00:43:17,988 --> 00:43:19,828
wanted it in our band’s sound.

895
00:43:19,918 --> 00:43:22,088
We were listening
to Elvis Costello,

896
00:43:22,188 --> 00:43:23,928
Talking Heads and The Police,

897
00:43:24,028 --> 00:43:26,468
all of them became
hugely influential on us.

898
00:43:26,558 --> 00:43:28,558
(♪ Roxanne ♪
by The Police)

899
00:43:29,898 --> 00:43:32,338
♪ Roxanne ♪

900
00:43:32,938 --> 00:43:34,278
♪ Roxanne ♪

901
00:43:35,208 --> 00:43:36,548
(Geddy): How did
you meet Pratt?

902
00:43:36,638 --> 00:43:38,808
Like I know we played
together at the Pink Pot.

903
00:43:38,908 --> 00:43:41,508
(Stewart): Yeah.
Which I remember very well.

904
00:43:41,608 --> 00:43:42,738
- 1979.

905
00:43:42,848 --> 00:43:44,388
- And we were on
like early afternoon.

906
00:43:44,478 --> 00:43:46,078
You guys weren’t even
in the building when we--

907
00:43:46,178 --> 00:43:48,178
- No, I-- We watched you
from the back, side stage.

908
00:43:48,288 --> 00:43:49,558
- Oh, really?
- Yeah.

909
00:43:49,648 --> 00:43:51,018
- I remember you guys
came off stage

910
00:43:51,118 --> 00:43:52,718
and you jumped
right in the pool.

911
00:43:52,818 --> 00:43:54,588
And that’s only
backstage I’ve ever been

912
00:43:54,688 --> 00:43:56,128
in that had a swimming pool.

913
00:43:56,228 --> 00:43:57,568
(Stewart): Yeah,
that’s pretty cool.

914
00:43:57,658 --> 00:44:00,228
(audience cheering)

915
00:44:00,328 --> 00:44:01,768
- Thank you!

916
00:44:04,098 --> 00:44:05,938
(Stewart): We played
at the Pink Pot Festival

917
00:44:06,038 --> 00:44:09,078
in Holland and we played kind
of early in the afternoon.

918
00:44:09,168 --> 00:44:10,198
Rush was headlining

919
00:44:10,308 --> 00:44:12,408
and so they were
kind of a big deal.

920
00:44:12,508 --> 00:44:16,978
They had their stage with this
huge enormous drum set.

921
00:44:17,078 --> 00:44:20,636
(rock music)

922
00:44:22,776 --> 00:44:26,346
Rush were kind of the epitome
of what went before.

923
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:28,586
And without
knowing music at all

924
00:44:28,686 --> 00:44:30,526
we took umbrage at them

925
00:44:30,616 --> 00:44:32,156
because they were
still long haired

926
00:44:32,256 --> 00:44:34,326
and this was an era of
a whole different hairdo

927
00:44:34,426 --> 00:44:37,266
and they were diligently
non-up-to-date.

928
00:44:37,356 --> 00:44:40,056
And I’m ashamed to say
that The Police, The Used,

929
00:44:40,156 --> 00:44:41,526
Rush, Foreigner

930
00:44:41,626 --> 00:44:44,196
and Fleetwood Mac
to do battle with

931
00:44:44,296 --> 00:44:46,636
as if they could
give a shit about us.

932
00:44:46,736 --> 00:44:49,036
You’ll probably know that
back in the day The Police

933
00:44:49,136 --> 00:44:51,236
were sort of against
the establishment!

934
00:44:51,336 --> 00:44:53,136
- We were establishment?

935
00:44:53,236 --> 00:44:54,976
- Oh, really?

936
00:44:55,076 --> 00:44:57,816
- And there might’ve been
some not unkind words

937
00:44:59,046 --> 00:45:01,646
which I soon was educated
out of such a position.

938
00:45:01,746 --> 00:45:03,216
- No offence taken.

939
00:45:03,316 --> 00:45:06,116
(rock music)

940
00:45:10,496 --> 00:45:13,396
(Neil): Around the late ’70s,
I make all the tapes

941
00:45:13,496 --> 00:45:14,866
that they play before
our concerts

942
00:45:14,966 --> 00:45:16,306
and I happened
to put some Police on

943
00:45:16,396 --> 00:45:17,636
from their first album.

944
00:45:17,736 --> 00:45:19,336
And they would play
over the PA before the show

945
00:45:19,436 --> 00:45:20,836
and the audience would boo
because somehow

946
00:45:20,936 --> 00:45:22,236
if they were Rush fans

947
00:45:22,336 --> 00:45:23,836
they were supposed to hate
the Police and vice versa

948
00:45:23,936 --> 00:45:26,606
which to me being in the band
and I made the tape, you know?

949
00:45:26,706 --> 00:45:28,306
And I like all these bands

950
00:45:28,406 --> 00:45:30,406
and all these different kinds
of music and enjoy them.

951
00:45:30,516 --> 00:45:31,956
It’s incomprehensible to me

952
00:45:32,046 --> 00:45:33,586
but there are these
factions, you know?

953
00:45:33,676 --> 00:45:35,216
And they get so narrowly
focused on things

954
00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:36,886
and I think music
happens that way too.

955
00:45:36,986 --> 00:45:39,326
I think you just get dismissed
and shunted off as, well,

956
00:45:39,416 --> 00:45:40,816
they’re not hip, so.

957
00:45:40,926 --> 00:45:42,266
We’ve gotta be hip

958
00:45:42,356 --> 00:45:43,826
so we can’t talk about
people who aren’t hip.

959
00:45:43,926 --> 00:45:45,396
(Stewart):
I was not a Rush fan

960
00:45:45,496 --> 00:45:49,266
and so it wasn’t until
I met Neil years later,

961
00:45:49,366 --> 00:45:50,606
hey, let’s do lunch.

962
00:45:50,696 --> 00:45:53,136
I got to know him and then
got to know the band.

963
00:45:53,236 --> 00:45:55,136
And getting into it,
going to see them.

964
00:45:55,236 --> 00:45:57,076
I get it, I understand why

965
00:45:57,176 --> 00:45:59,476
people get all
reverent about Rush.

966
00:45:59,576 --> 00:46:01,946
(♪ New World Man ♪ continues)

967
00:46:08,516 --> 00:46:11,816
♪ Learning to match
the beat of the old-world ♪

968
00:46:13,926 --> 00:46:16,296
♪ Well he’s learning
to catch the heat ♪

969
00:46:16,386 --> 00:46:18,756
♪ Of the third-world man ♪

970
00:46:18,856 --> 00:46:24,766
♪ He’s a new world man ♪

971
00:46:24,866 --> 00:46:29,066
♪ He’s a new world man ♪

972
00:46:29,166 --> 00:46:31,706
♪ Oh yeah ♪

973
00:47:01,066 --> 00:47:03,266
(laughter)

974
00:47:03,366 --> 00:47:04,706
(Geddy): Take that!

975
00:47:04,806 --> 00:47:06,706
- Fuck, that is
hard work, though.

976
00:47:06,806 --> 00:47:08,276
I thought I was fit.

977
00:47:08,376 --> 00:47:09,746
(laughter)

978
00:47:09,846 --> 00:47:11,386
- Well, you know,
it’s a Rush song,

979
00:47:11,476 --> 00:47:13,116
it’s gonna be goofy.

980
00:47:13,216 --> 00:47:15,286
- It’s gonna be
hard fucking work.

981
00:47:15,386 --> 00:47:18,286
And I heard that from guy that
used to play with Rush.

982
00:47:19,316 --> 00:47:21,356
(laughter)

983
00:47:21,456 --> 00:47:22,696
(Geddy): I’m glad you’re here.

984
00:47:22,786 --> 00:47:24,526
I appreciate you
coming to do this.

985
00:47:24,626 --> 00:47:26,496
- Ah, it’s an honour.
It really is an honour.

986
00:47:26,596 --> 00:47:27,726
(Alex):
It’s really interesting

987
00:47:27,826 --> 00:47:30,066
how Stewart and Neil
became great friends

988
00:47:30,166 --> 00:47:32,336
because they were so
similar in so many ways.

989
00:47:32,436 --> 00:47:34,376
I went out to dinner one
night with the two of them

990
00:47:34,466 --> 00:47:37,036
and the two of them just
like, do, do, do, do!

991
00:47:37,136 --> 00:47:38,936
Throughout the dinner
while I was just eating.

992
00:47:39,036 --> 00:47:40,066
(laughter)

993
00:47:40,176 --> 00:47:42,016
There’s an understanding
amongst drummers,

994
00:47:42,106 --> 00:47:43,446
they speak their own language

995
00:47:43,546 --> 00:47:45,216
and it’s a dialect
that I’ve come to realize

996
00:47:45,316 --> 00:47:46,586
I don’t really understand.

997
00:47:46,676 --> 00:47:47,946
(chuckles)

998
00:47:48,046 --> 00:47:50,216
After the dinner, we went
over to Stewart’s place

999
00:47:50,316 --> 00:47:52,216
and Stewart this studio

1000
00:47:52,316 --> 00:47:54,086
and he has every
instrument in the world

1001
00:47:54,186 --> 00:47:57,286
and it was pure musical fun.

1002
00:47:57,396 --> 00:48:00,566
(rock music)

1003
00:48:00,666 --> 00:48:03,136
(Geddy): He loved those jams
you did at the Grove.

1004
00:48:03,226 --> 00:48:04,796
(Stewart): Oh, man.

1005
00:48:05,896 --> 00:48:07,536
Those were a lot of fun.

1006
00:48:07,636 --> 00:48:10,376
He would get on the drums,
plan, okay Neil’s on drums.

1007
00:48:10,466 --> 00:48:12,866
Had them set up
facing each other.

1008
00:48:12,976 --> 00:48:15,516
Hey, Danny,
Neil’s coming over.

1009
00:48:15,606 --> 00:48:16,946
(laughter)

1010
00:48:17,046 --> 00:48:20,016
So, I had Neil and Danny which
means I get to play guitar.

1011
00:48:20,116 --> 00:48:21,916
(Danny): It was fun jamming
with them, you know.

1012
00:48:22,016 --> 00:48:24,486
You can just hear
Neil go off too, man.

1013
00:48:24,586 --> 00:48:26,156
It was a great
sense of improv.

1014
00:48:26,256 --> 00:48:27,926
Those would go on for hours

1015
00:48:28,026 --> 00:48:29,366
and a couple
of bottles of Macallan

1016
00:48:29,456 --> 00:48:30,696
would help, you know?

1017
00:48:30,796 --> 00:48:32,536
You get to know
someone that way.

1018
00:48:32,626 --> 00:48:34,226
It was good times.

1019
00:48:35,396 --> 00:48:37,066
- One, two, three, four.

1020
00:48:37,166 --> 00:48:40,206
(rock music)

1021
00:48:45,036 --> 00:48:47,006
(Matt): I remember
meeting this guy

1022
00:48:47,106 --> 00:48:49,876
who’s work I’ve loved
and admired for so long.

1023
00:48:49,976 --> 00:48:52,946
I’m trying to think
of what to say, right?

1024
00:48:53,046 --> 00:48:55,486
{\an8}Like, what do I say
to this guy

1025
00:48:55,586 --> 00:48:58,056
{\an8}who’s my favorite lyricist,

1026
00:48:58,156 --> 00:48:59,656
{\an8} you know,
my favourite drummer

1027
00:48:59,756 --> 00:49:01,126
in my favourite band.

1028
00:49:01,226 --> 00:49:03,026
And I know that
Neil’s a private guy

1029
00:49:03,126 --> 00:49:05,026
and I don’t want
to get it wrong.

1030
00:49:05,126 --> 00:49:07,366
So, he answers the door
and he’s walking towards me

1031
00:49:07,466 --> 00:49:10,306
and he’s this big, big guy
and he looks down at me

1032
00:49:10,396 --> 00:49:13,296
and extends his hand
and he says,

1033
00:49:13,396 --> 00:49:15,166
I’m a huge fan of your work.

1034
00:49:17,036 --> 00:49:20,836
So, all the like steam
was of the kettle.

1035
00:49:20,946 --> 00:49:22,386
Instantly.

1036
00:49:22,476 --> 00:49:24,646
We were by some metric,

1037
00:49:24,746 --> 00:49:26,846
if not equals,
we were at least speaking

1038
00:49:26,946 --> 00:49:29,346
a language that we were
both maybe fluent in.

1039
00:49:30,616 --> 00:49:32,316
And it changed everything.

1040
00:49:32,416 --> 00:49:34,786
(Chad): They were playing
Universal Amphitheatre

1041
00:49:34,886 --> 00:49:36,856
in Los Angeles
and Al invited me down

1042
00:49:36,956 --> 00:49:38,426
and he’s like,
are you here yet?

1043
00:49:38,526 --> 00:49:40,126
He says,
Neil wants to see you.

1044
00:49:40,226 --> 00:49:41,796
And I was like, oh, okay.

1045
00:49:41,896 --> 00:49:44,366
You know, it’s like being
summoned by--

1046
00:49:44,466 --> 00:49:46,966
The king will see you now.

1047
00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:48,266
I was like, oh, shit!

1048
00:49:48,366 --> 00:49:50,466
So, he had his dressing room

1049
00:49:50,566 --> 00:49:52,706
far away from
everybody else, of course.

1050
00:49:52,806 --> 00:49:54,176
And I go in and he’s like,

1051
00:49:54,276 --> 00:49:55,776
(deep voice):
So nice to meet you.

1052
00:49:55,876 --> 00:49:59,046
That’s his voice!
And he’s a big guy. Big dude.

1053
00:49:59,146 --> 00:50:00,686
I was like, whoa!

1054
00:50:00,786 --> 00:50:03,026
And we shook hands
and immediately he’s like,

1055
00:50:03,116 --> 00:50:05,316
you know, I’m a big fan

1056
00:50:05,416 --> 00:50:07,016
of your playing,
the Chili Peppers.

1057
00:50:07,116 --> 00:50:09,856
And he was asking me about
parts on some of our songs

1058
00:50:09,956 --> 00:50:11,756
that he knew
and I was like, oh my god!

1059
00:50:11,856 --> 00:50:14,496
I was like, couldn’t believe,
it was so cool.

1060
00:50:14,596 --> 00:50:16,796
And it was immediately
we were peers.

1061
00:50:16,896 --> 00:50:19,296
- When you met Neil,
who reached out to who?

1062
00:50:19,396 --> 00:50:21,596
- Neil wrote to me.
- Yeah.

1063
00:50:21,706 --> 00:50:24,676
- And I was very surprised,
you know?

1064
00:50:24,776 --> 00:50:27,046
And the email was
written like a book,

1065
00:50:27,136 --> 00:50:29,636
like, all the indents
at the start of the line.

1066
00:50:29,746 --> 00:50:33,646
Immaculate, no mistakes,
no grammar mistakes.

1067
00:50:33,746 --> 00:50:35,646
- He was all about that.

1068
00:50:35,746 --> 00:50:37,746
That brotherhood of drummers.

1069
00:50:37,856 --> 00:50:39,956
If he reached out to you,
your playing moved him,

1070
00:50:40,056 --> 00:50:41,356
a hundred percent. Yeah.

1071
00:50:41,456 --> 00:50:43,456
- God. I mean,
I wouldn’t dream

1072
00:50:43,556 --> 00:50:45,196
of writing to a guy like that.

1073
00:50:45,296 --> 00:50:46,796
Hey, how you doing?

1074
00:50:46,896 --> 00:50:48,736
You know?
I wouldn’t expect a reply.

1075
00:50:48,826 --> 00:50:51,266
I get message from Neil

1076
00:50:51,366 --> 00:50:53,306
and he said that
I can see you’re playing

1077
00:50:53,396 --> 00:50:56,136
with Porcupine Tree
in Los Angeles next month,

1078
00:50:56,236 --> 00:50:58,406
I was wondering if
I could take you to lunch.

1079
00:50:58,506 --> 00:51:00,146
He said, let’s meet at 12:30.

1080
00:51:00,236 --> 00:51:03,676
I got in a taxi, I got down
there about a quarter to 12.

1081
00:51:03,776 --> 00:51:05,916
And as I’m walking
down the block,

1082
00:51:06,016 --> 00:51:08,956
I look and I think there’s
a guy sitting outside

1083
00:51:09,046 --> 00:51:10,546
looks like Neil Peart.

1084
00:51:10,646 --> 00:51:13,816
So, he was actually
earlier than I was.

1085
00:51:13,916 --> 00:51:16,956
He was so unstarry
and without ego,

1086
00:51:17,056 --> 00:51:20,756
it was just like two drummers
just talking drums.

1087
00:51:20,866 --> 00:51:23,536
Afterwards he said,
I can take you back.

1088
00:51:23,626 --> 00:51:25,726
So, I thought, please,
I just hope the band

1089
00:51:25,836 --> 00:51:27,406
are standing outside the venue

1090
00:51:27,506 --> 00:51:29,476
when I pull up
in an Ashton Martin

1091
00:51:29,566 --> 00:51:31,336
chauffeur driven
by Neil Peart,

1092
00:51:31,436 --> 00:51:33,536
this will be,
this will be so good.

1093
00:51:33,636 --> 00:51:35,006
And, of course, they weren’t.

1094
00:51:35,106 --> 00:51:38,388
(laughter)

1095
00:51:38,488 --> 00:51:40,488
(Doane): Neil and I
corresponded

1096
00:51:40,588 --> 00:51:44,128
but it was a few years until
we finally met in person.

1097
00:51:44,228 --> 00:51:46,798
By that point it felt
like two old friends,

1098
00:51:46,898 --> 00:51:48,538
we would talk about drumming

1099
00:51:48,628 --> 00:51:52,498
but he would also talk
about literature, philosophy,

1100
00:51:52,598 --> 00:51:55,098
art, science, nature,

1101
00:51:55,208 --> 00:51:58,878
the cosmos, astronomy,
consciousness, philosophy.

1102
00:51:58,978 --> 00:52:00,618
He was a polymath.

1103
00:52:00,708 --> 00:52:02,178
And I loved the fact

1104
00:52:02,278 --> 00:52:03,718
that I could have
these conversations

1105
00:52:03,808 --> 00:52:07,648
across a wide
variety of topics

1106
00:52:07,748 --> 00:52:10,488
that interested me
and it interested him too.

1107
00:52:10,588 --> 00:52:13,758
Not a lot of people that I
could really do that with

1108
00:52:13,858 --> 00:52:17,558
and we would meet sometimes
at The Cave, you know.

1109
00:52:17,658 --> 00:52:19,428
(Geddy): The Cave was him,

1110
00:52:19,528 --> 00:52:21,498
was his fortress of solitude

1111
00:52:21,598 --> 00:52:23,398
and he had his
little office area

1112
00:52:23,498 --> 00:52:26,238
where he sat at the desk
and typed and worked.

1113
00:52:26,338 --> 00:52:28,338
When you went to visit Neil

1114
00:52:28,438 --> 00:52:30,578
you would hang out
and you would be goofy

1115
00:52:30,668 --> 00:52:32,268
and you would
tell your stories

1116
00:52:32,378 --> 00:52:35,178
and you would do your
real connecting at The Cave.

1117
00:52:35,278 --> 00:52:37,218
(Matt): He had
the most beautiful cars and

1118
00:52:37,308 --> 00:52:39,108
they were all kind
of just right there,

1119
00:52:39,218 --> 00:52:40,588
the silver surfers.

1120
00:52:40,678 --> 00:52:43,218
And a dangerously comfy couch.

1121
00:52:43,318 --> 00:52:45,388
We’d get together
on Fridays at The Cave

1122
00:52:45,488 --> 00:52:47,228
and just talk about life.

1123
00:52:47,318 --> 00:52:49,588
I didn’t have a big brother
growing up

1124
00:52:49,688 --> 00:52:54,598
and I really feel like
Neil became my big brother.

1125
00:52:54,698 --> 00:52:57,598
And a lot of that
happened at The Cave

1126
00:52:57,698 --> 00:53:02,038
where I could kind of ask him
for his advice on things

1127
00:53:02,138 --> 00:53:04,508
that maybe
I was going through.

1128
00:53:04,608 --> 00:53:07,248
And so I just remember
many times

1129
00:53:07,338 --> 00:53:10,678
feeling a certain way
walking into The Cave

1130
00:53:10,778 --> 00:53:14,248
and feeling completely
different on the way out,

1131
00:53:14,348 --> 00:53:17,048
like, it’s probably
going to be okay.

1132
00:53:17,148 --> 00:53:21,188
♪ Living on a lighted stage ♪

1133
00:53:22,188 --> 00:53:25,358
♪ Approaches the unreal ♪

1134
00:53:28,298 --> 00:53:31,138
- Want to start
banging with us, dude?

1135
00:53:31,238 --> 00:53:33,678
(Chad): I will bang.
- You’ll banga!

1136
00:53:33,768 --> 00:53:36,168
- Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Chad Smith will join us

1137
00:53:36,268 --> 00:53:38,468
for the performance
of Limelight.

1138
00:53:41,778 --> 00:53:44,218
- I watched you guys
in your video

1139
00:53:44,308 --> 00:53:46,178
at La Studio where you did it.

1140
00:53:46,278 --> 00:53:48,218
First of all,
it was really beautiful

1141
00:53:48,318 --> 00:53:50,488
’cause you were just fresh
faced young men.

1142
00:53:50,588 --> 00:53:52,058
Was that--
- 35 years ago.

1143
00:53:52,158 --> 00:53:53,898
(Chad): ’80?
- ’80.

1144
00:53:53,988 --> 00:53:56,358
(Chad): Neil is fucking
banging in that video.

1145
00:53:56,458 --> 00:53:57,428
He’s just--

1146
00:53:58,898 --> 00:54:00,568
Killing them!
I was like...

1147
00:54:00,658 --> 00:54:02,698
(laughter)

1148
00:54:02,798 --> 00:54:04,238
It’s a video!

1149
00:54:04,328 --> 00:54:06,098
He wasn’t phoning in.

1150
00:54:07,098 --> 00:54:08,268
None of that shit.

1151
00:54:08,368 --> 00:54:10,108
(Geddy): Every video we did,

1152
00:54:10,208 --> 00:54:12,578
he’s not going to
pretend to play the song,

1153
00:54:12,678 --> 00:54:14,548
he has to play the song.

1154
00:54:14,648 --> 00:54:15,988
He played it full out.

1155
00:54:20,148 --> 00:54:24,188
{\an8} (♪ Limelight ♪
by Rush playing)

1156
00:54:40,298 --> 00:54:45,338
♪ Living on a lighted stage
approaches the unreal ♪

1157
00:54:45,438 --> 00:54:48,938
♪ For those who think
and feel ♪

1158
00:54:49,048 --> 00:54:51,618
♪ In touch with
some reality ♪

1159
00:54:51,718 --> 00:54:54,018
♪ Beyond the gilded cage ♪

1160
00:54:59,488 --> 00:55:04,498
♪ Cast in this unlikely role
ill-equipped to act ♪

1161
00:55:04,598 --> 00:55:07,368
♪ With insufficient tact ♪

1162
00:55:07,458 --> 00:55:12,668
♪ One must put up barriers
to keep oneself intact ♪

1163
00:55:15,608 --> 00:55:20,478
♪ Living in the limelight
the universal dream ♪

1164
00:55:20,578 --> 00:55:24,478
♪ For those who wish to seem ♪

1165
00:55:26,118 --> 00:55:29,218
♪ Those who wish to be ♪

1166
00:55:29,318 --> 00:55:33,058
♪ Must put aside
the alienation ♪

1167
00:55:33,158 --> 00:55:36,128
♪ Get on with
the fascination ♪

1168
00:55:36,228 --> 00:55:40,798
♪ The real relation
the underlying theme ♪

1169
00:55:50,608 --> 00:55:55,718
♪ Living in a fisheye lens
caught in the camera eye ♪

1170
00:55:55,808 --> 00:55:58,808
♪ I have no heart to lie ♪

1171
00:55:58,918 --> 00:56:03,658
♪ I can’t pretend a stranger
is a long-awaited friend ♪

1172
00:56:03,748 --> 00:56:06,018
(crowd cheering)

1173
00:56:07,858 --> 00:56:10,898
(Stewart): Neil liked to
hang out with other musicians

1174
00:56:10,988 --> 00:56:13,588
but the attention
from his fans

1175
00:56:13,698 --> 00:56:15,198
made him deeply uncomfortable

1176
00:56:15,298 --> 00:56:18,438
because they were expecting
godhead from him.

1177
00:56:18,538 --> 00:56:20,608
(Geddy): When someone
came into his sphere

1178
00:56:20,698 --> 00:56:23,668
who approached him
as Neil Peart the famous guy

1179
00:56:23,768 --> 00:56:26,238
he was suspicious and leery.

1180
00:56:26,338 --> 00:56:28,108
(Alex): No, it was very
uncomfortable for him.

1181
00:56:28,208 --> 00:56:30,348
- He was very hard
to approach.

1182
00:56:30,448 --> 00:56:32,888
(Alex): Yeah, to the point
of being angry about it.

1183
00:56:32,978 --> 00:56:34,418
Limelight.

1184
00:56:34,518 --> 00:56:36,188
- Hmm. Yeah.

1185
00:56:36,288 --> 00:56:38,828
(woman): Can you name
a thing that you think

1186
00:56:38,918 --> 00:56:40,588
that your fans
don’t know about you

1187
00:56:40,688 --> 00:56:42,358
that you wish they did?

1188
00:56:43,658 --> 00:56:45,828
(exhales)

1189
00:56:46,758 --> 00:56:48,128
- Uh...

1190
00:56:48,228 --> 00:56:49,728
Yeah, I’m always
bad at that, sorry.

1191
00:56:49,828 --> 00:56:51,328
(woman chuckles)

1192
00:56:51,438 --> 00:56:53,278
Probably not, um...

1193
00:56:55,638 --> 00:56:57,078
Jeez, that’s a lousy one.

1194
00:56:57,168 --> 00:56:58,638
(both laughing)

1195
00:56:58,738 --> 00:57:00,938
(audience cheering)

1196
00:57:01,038 --> 00:57:03,338
The way
the music industry works,

1197
00:57:03,448 --> 00:57:04,548
you know, they
want the private life

1198
00:57:04,648 --> 00:57:07,288
and they want all of that
but it’s not easy.

1199
00:57:07,378 --> 00:57:09,778
It really isn’t because you’re
expected to play this role

1200
00:57:09,888 --> 00:57:11,958
and you’re expected to be some
kind of idol by everyone,

1201
00:57:12,058 --> 00:57:13,328
by your fans.

1202
00:57:13,418 --> 00:57:15,018
So you find ways
to defend against that

1203
00:57:15,128 --> 00:57:16,898
and the only way is to
draw a firm line

1204
00:57:16,988 --> 00:57:18,728
between public life
and professional life.

1205
00:57:18,828 --> 00:57:20,668
That’s the way
I look at it, really.

1206
00:57:20,758 --> 00:57:22,698
If I go off to do my job
then I’m a professional,

1207
00:57:22,798 --> 00:57:25,268
if I’m not doing my job,
then I’m a person, you know?

1208
00:57:25,368 --> 00:57:27,268
So, don’t get them mixed up.

1209
00:57:29,238 --> 00:57:31,478
♪ All the world’s
indeed a stage ♪

1210
00:57:31,578 --> 00:57:34,218
♪ And we are merely players ♪

1211
00:57:34,308 --> 00:57:36,678
♪ Performers and portrayers ♪

1212
00:57:36,778 --> 00:57:42,218
♪ Each another’s audience
Outside the gilded cage ♪

1213
00:57:45,618 --> 00:57:48,158
(Matt): There was
a line for him

1214
00:57:48,258 --> 00:57:50,198
going from respect
for his work

1215
00:57:50,288 --> 00:57:52,158
and appreciation for his work

1216
00:57:52,258 --> 00:57:54,958
going past that into adulation

1217
00:57:55,068 --> 00:57:56,868
or too much fan-boying out.

1218
00:57:56,968 --> 00:57:59,638
But I know he wanted people
to feel at ease

1219
00:57:59,738 --> 00:58:01,208
for a couple reasons.

1220
00:58:01,308 --> 00:58:03,508
Both because he was a polite
and kind human being

1221
00:58:03,608 --> 00:58:05,748
but also because
the awkwardness

1222
00:58:05,838 --> 00:58:07,878
made him feel awkward.

1223
00:58:07,978 --> 00:58:09,748
- Well, Rita and I,
my wife and I

1224
00:58:09,848 --> 00:58:12,088
went to a show and it was
the end of tour or something

1225
00:58:12,178 --> 00:58:14,178
and it was at Four Seasons
in Toronto and he

1226
00:58:14,278 --> 00:58:16,348
said, we’ll meet
for breakfast.

1227
00:58:16,448 --> 00:58:17,888
And, so, we’re there
having breakfast

1228
00:58:17,988 --> 00:58:20,258
and all of the sudden
he started getting nervous

1229
00:58:20,358 --> 00:58:21,828
and I said,
what’s your problem?

1230
00:58:21,928 --> 00:58:23,598
Look out in the hallway.

1231
00:58:23,688 --> 00:58:25,158
And, of course,
there was someone.

1232
00:58:25,258 --> 00:58:27,228
So, I said, okay, I’ll go out.

1233
00:58:27,328 --> 00:58:30,298
So, I went to the guy and I
said, so you’ve noticed Neil.

1234
00:58:30,398 --> 00:58:31,968
Yeah, man, wow.
You know, I just--

1235
00:58:32,068 --> 00:58:34,538
I just want to say hi,
I just--

1236
00:58:34,638 --> 00:58:36,308
I said, so, you know
anything about him?

1237
00:58:36,408 --> 00:58:37,908
Oh, I know
everything about him.

1238
00:58:38,008 --> 00:58:39,778
I said, well, if you know
everything about him,

1239
00:58:39,878 --> 00:58:41,878
you’ll know that
he does not like this.

1240
00:58:41,978 --> 00:58:44,618
Just we’ll all walk by

1241
00:58:44,718 --> 00:58:46,788
and if-- the best thing
you can do,

1242
00:58:46,878 --> 00:58:50,848
which I would appreciate
and he will, is nothing.

1243
00:58:50,948 --> 00:58:52,918
(Geddy): I remember one time
we were in Brazil

1244
00:58:53,018 --> 00:58:55,258
and we were having
dinner in Rio,

1245
00:58:55,358 --> 00:58:56,998
some fans came
in the restaurant

1246
00:58:57,088 --> 00:58:58,588
and wanted his autograph.

1247
00:58:58,698 --> 00:59:01,338
And he immediately used to
tighten up as you know,

1248
00:59:01,428 --> 00:59:04,328
so I just got the papers
or whatever it was

1249
00:59:04,428 --> 00:59:05,998
and I said, just sign that.

1250
00:59:06,098 --> 00:59:08,938
And he signed and I signed it
and I gave it back to them

1251
00:59:09,038 --> 00:59:10,408
and it was fine,
it was all over.

1252
00:59:10,508 --> 00:59:12,008
So, it’s funny.

1253
00:59:12,108 --> 00:59:13,848
He had all kinds
of time for people

1254
00:59:13,938 --> 00:59:15,108
when they didn’t
know who he was.

1255
00:59:15,208 --> 00:59:17,278
- That’s true, he was happiest
in those times I think.

1256
00:59:17,378 --> 00:59:19,218
- But you know, that’s a flaw

1257
00:59:19,318 --> 00:59:21,958
because you can’t
have it both ways.

1258
00:59:22,048 --> 00:59:26,318
You live on the stage
and you pay the price.

1259
00:59:26,418 --> 00:59:29,258
- Actually, it is a flaw.

1260
00:59:29,358 --> 00:59:30,798
You were a genius,

1261
00:59:30,888 --> 00:59:33,328
one of the finest
rock drummers to ever live,

1262
00:59:33,428 --> 00:59:34,698
best selling author,

1263
00:59:34,798 --> 00:59:36,538
you’re going to have
to let people

1264
00:59:36,628 --> 00:59:37,798
tell you they appreciate that.

1265
00:59:37,898 --> 00:59:39,938
You’ve attained this

1266
00:59:40,038 --> 00:59:41,908
but you can’t forget why

1267
00:59:42,708 --> 00:59:44,678
because without them

1268
00:59:44,778 --> 00:59:46,478
you wouldn’t have attained it.

1269
00:59:49,231 --> 00:59:52,931
(♪ Limelight ♪
by Rush)

1270
01:00:28,531 --> 01:00:32,931
♪ Living in the limelight
the universal dream ♪

1271
01:00:33,041 --> 01:00:36,111
♪ For those who wish to seem ♪

1272
01:00:37,841 --> 01:00:39,811
♪ Those who wish to be ♪

1273
01:00:39,911 --> 01:00:44,451
♪ Must put aside
the alienation ♪

1274
01:00:44,551 --> 01:00:47,951
♪ Get on with
the fascination ♪

1275
01:00:48,051 --> 01:00:52,321
♪ The real relation
the underlying theme ♪

1276
01:00:52,421 --> 01:00:54,921
♪ The real relation ♪

1277
01:00:55,031 --> 01:00:57,701
♪ The underlying theme ♪

1278
01:00:57,791 --> 01:00:59,591
♪ Oh yeah ♪

1279
01:01:26,761 --> 01:01:28,061
(laughter)

1280
01:01:28,161 --> 01:01:30,161
- Fuck yeah!
- That didn’t suck!

1281
01:01:30,261 --> 01:01:31,461
Okay!

1282
01:01:31,561 --> 01:01:33,061
- I can’t play
without looking at you

1283
01:01:33,161 --> 01:01:35,231
and I can’t look at you
without smiling.

1284
01:01:35,331 --> 01:01:36,461
(laughter)

1285
01:01:36,571 --> 01:01:38,811
That is just the best feeling.

1286
01:01:38,901 --> 01:01:40,171
(Chad): I don’t want
to break to formula.

1287
01:01:40,271 --> 01:01:42,341
- So, you clearly
know this song.

1288
01:01:42,441 --> 01:01:45,011
- Obviously, I know the song
but when you actually dig in

1289
01:01:45,111 --> 01:01:47,981
and Neil’s parts are such
integral parts of, of--

1290
01:01:48,081 --> 01:01:49,211
- It’s so arranged.

1291
01:01:49,311 --> 01:01:50,981
- Yeah, you can’t jam
your way through it.

1292
01:01:51,081 --> 01:01:52,751
You can but that’s
not the way to do it.

1293
01:01:52,851 --> 01:01:54,591
So, I’m like, shit!

1294
01:01:54,681 --> 01:01:57,081
Even the beginning--
(scatting)

1295
01:01:57,191 --> 01:01:59,361
Wha-- What!?
What the fuck is that?

1296
01:01:59,461 --> 01:02:02,301
I just want it to feel right.
- Yeah, of course.

1297
01:02:02,391 --> 01:02:05,091
- So... I’m trying
to be musical.

1298
01:02:06,561 --> 01:02:08,961
Right? It’s like--
it’s really something.

1299
01:02:10,031 --> 01:02:12,771
It’s really something.
Really something.

1300
01:02:12,871 --> 01:02:16,071
- Limelight remains such a joy
to play after all the years.

1301
01:02:16,171 --> 01:02:17,911
So you know you got it right,
you know,

1302
01:02:18,011 --> 01:02:19,751
if you can still play a song
30 years later

1303
01:02:19,841 --> 01:02:22,511
and still get the same
charge from it.

1304
01:02:22,611 --> 01:02:25,751
So, I think Moving Pictures
represents so much

1305
01:02:25,851 --> 01:02:27,951
that we learned up to
that point about song writing,

1306
01:02:28,051 --> 01:02:30,221
about arrangement and what
we could do with the song

1307
01:02:30,321 --> 01:02:31,961
and structure
and the dynamics.

1308
01:02:32,061 --> 01:02:34,501
And really the same values
that I applied in my drumming

1309
01:02:34,591 --> 01:02:35,961
came to be in the lyrics

1310
01:02:36,061 --> 01:02:37,901
by getting better
at the craft of it.

1311
01:02:37,991 --> 01:02:39,791
I was experimenting so much.

1312
01:02:39,901 --> 01:02:42,271
I remember reading
some old poetry

1313
01:02:42,371 --> 01:02:43,911
and poetry didn’t
used to rhyme,

1314
01:02:44,001 --> 01:02:45,441
it used alliteration.

1315
01:02:45,541 --> 01:02:48,641
A poem would begin like,
when the siege and assault

1316
01:02:48,741 --> 01:02:50,541
had ceased at Troy,

1317
01:02:50,641 --> 01:02:51,711
was the opening line

1318
01:02:51,811 --> 01:02:53,081
to Sir Gawain
and the Green Knight,

1319
01:02:53,181 --> 01:02:54,451
I somehow remember
but it fascinated me

1320
01:02:54,541 --> 01:02:56,481
that poetry once
had nothing to do with rhyme.

1321
01:02:56,581 --> 01:02:58,151
It was about rhythm and sound.

1322
01:02:58,251 --> 01:03:00,121
It was about
the assonance of sound.

1323
01:03:00,221 --> 01:03:01,761
And, of course,
there’s a relationship

1324
01:03:01,851 --> 01:03:09,391
with drumming there
in subdividing the beats.

1325
01:03:09,491 --> 01:03:12,061
We are at the former site,

1326
01:03:12,161 --> 01:03:14,861
the ruins of the studio
in Quebec, Canada

1327
01:03:14,961 --> 01:03:18,701
where I first came in fall
of 1979 with the band

1328
01:03:18,801 --> 01:03:21,601
to record Permeant Waves

1329
01:03:21,711 --> 01:03:25,051
and work here for
the next 20 years off and on

1330
01:03:25,141 --> 01:03:26,841
but especially for
that first ten years.

1331
01:03:26,941 --> 01:03:29,581
Recording, mixing,
writing songs.

1332
01:03:30,951 --> 01:03:32,251
Yeah.

1333
01:03:32,351 --> 01:03:34,551
So, this was
the main recording room.

1334
01:03:34,651 --> 01:03:36,721
My drums would be set up
either right here

1335
01:03:36,821 --> 01:03:40,091
or at the other end
and the piano’s still there.

1336
01:03:40,191 --> 01:03:42,891
(playing ♪ Tom Sawyer ♪
by Rush)

1337
01:04:05,551 --> 01:04:08,321
(Alex): Danny,
he’s an amazing drummer

1338
01:04:08,421 --> 01:04:11,161
and is so many ways,
similar stylistically to Neil

1339
01:04:11,251 --> 01:04:14,051
and so he got stuck with
two of the toughest tunes.

1340
01:04:14,161 --> 01:04:16,861
First, we handed him
Overture From 2112.

1341
01:04:16,961 --> 01:04:19,061
Now he has tackle
Tom Sawyer,

1342
01:04:19,161 --> 01:04:21,161
which really is a showcase
for the drums.

1343
01:04:21,261 --> 01:04:22,601
And even Neil always said

1344
01:04:22,701 --> 01:04:24,541
it was one of the hardest
songs for him to play.

1345
01:04:24,631 --> 01:04:27,901
So, yeah, I guess we threw
Danny right into the deep end.

1346
01:04:28,001 --> 01:04:30,071
- Okay, want to try it
from the top?

1347
01:04:30,171 --> 01:04:31,771
Shall we bluster through?

1348
01:04:31,881 --> 01:04:33,251
- I guess so.
(chuckles)

1349
01:04:33,341 --> 01:04:35,881
(Geddy): From the topping,
no stopping.

1350
01:04:35,981 --> 01:04:37,921
(Danny): Okay.

1351
01:04:38,011 --> 01:04:40,051
Two, three, four.

1352
01:04:40,151 --> 01:04:43,451
{\an8} (♪ Tom Sawyer ♪
by Rush playing)

1353
01:04:45,691 --> 01:04:48,661
♪ A modern-day warrior
A mean, mean stride ♪

1354
01:04:48,761 --> 01:04:51,301
♪ Today’s Tom Sawyer
Mean, mean pride ♪

1355
01:05:02,974 --> 01:05:05,244
♪ Though his mind
is not for rent ♪

1356
01:05:05,344 --> 01:05:07,914
♪ Don’t put him down
as arrogant ♪

1357
01:05:08,014 --> 01:05:11,254
♪ His reserve,
a quiet defense ♪

1358
01:05:11,344 --> 01:05:14,084
♪ Riding out
the day’s events ♪

1359
01:05:14,184 --> 01:05:16,524
♪ The river ♪

1360
01:05:32,574 --> 01:05:34,914
♪ What you say about
his company ♪

1361
01:05:35,004 --> 01:05:37,404
♪ Is what you say
about society ♪

1362
01:05:37,504 --> 01:05:40,474
♪ Catch the mist,
catch the myth ♪

1363
01:05:40,574 --> 01:05:43,144
♪ Catch the mystery,
catch the drift ♪

1364
01:05:51,354 --> 01:05:53,924
♪ The world is,
the world is ♪

1365
01:05:54,024 --> 01:05:57,964
♪ Love and life are deep ♪

1366
01:05:58,064 --> 01:06:03,334
♪ Maybe as his skies
are wide ♪

1367
01:06:08,104 --> 01:06:10,944
♪ Today’s Tom Sawyer,
he gets high on you ♪

1368
01:06:11,044 --> 01:06:14,844
♪ And the space he invades,
he gets by on you ♪

1369
01:06:36,904 --> 01:06:40,574
(♪ Tom Sawyer ♪ continues)

1370
01:06:51,784 --> 01:06:53,554
- So, this is
the main recording room

1371
01:06:53,654 --> 01:06:55,494
which has
changed configuration

1372
01:06:55,584 --> 01:06:58,384
and size over the years.

1373
01:06:58,494 --> 01:07:01,034
In those days we all recorded
together in the room.

1374
01:07:01,124 --> 01:07:02,724
So, all of us were
learning the song

1375
01:07:02,824 --> 01:07:04,464
and interacting to
each other’s parts.

1376
01:07:04,564 --> 01:07:06,204
So, a lot of stuff
was hammered out,

1377
01:07:06,294 --> 01:07:08,694
is the best way
to put it, here.

1378
01:07:08,804 --> 01:07:10,574
You know, by playing
it over and over again.

1379
01:07:10,664 --> 01:07:12,434
And that’s the way
we worked in those days

1380
01:07:12,534 --> 01:07:14,074
and that’s when I look
at a drum part

1381
01:07:14,174 --> 01:07:15,444
like Tom Sawyer for example,

1382
01:07:15,544 --> 01:07:18,844
infinitely detailed because
I paid it 5,000 times.

1383
01:07:18,944 --> 01:07:21,244
And as we played it away
in here, you know,

1384
01:07:21,344 --> 01:07:23,514
I’d be set up over and I’d
be going into that again

1385
01:07:23,614 --> 01:07:25,714
and the next time I’d add
one detail, add a detail.

1386
01:07:25,814 --> 01:07:29,584
(Nick): Most bands, the drums
are usually in the back

1387
01:07:29,684 --> 01:07:31,184
but with Rush
there’s so much space

1388
01:07:31,284 --> 01:07:33,054
because they’re
just a three piece,

1389
01:07:33,154 --> 01:07:35,754
{\an8} that Neil just had
this giant wide space

1390
01:07:35,864 --> 01:07:37,164
{\an8}that he could fill up

1391
01:07:37,264 --> 01:07:40,134
{\an8} and would fill it up
with the big long fills

1392
01:07:40,234 --> 01:07:42,274
and all the things that
we air drum all the time.

1393
01:07:42,364 --> 01:07:44,364
You know, like the middle part
of Tom Sawyer

1394
01:07:44,464 --> 01:07:46,964
is every air drummer’s
fantasy section.

1395
01:07:47,074 --> 01:07:49,274
- I’ve never gone to other
concerts

1396
01:07:49,374 --> 01:07:50,544
where people air drum.

1397
01:07:50,644 --> 01:07:51,774
And they’re not--

1398
01:07:51,874 --> 01:07:53,914
there’s not 20,000
drummers out there.

1399
01:07:54,014 --> 01:07:55,684
Yeah, the drummer can do it,

1400
01:07:55,784 --> 01:07:59,354
but like random fan guys,
if you hear Tom Sawyer...

1401
01:07:59,454 --> 01:08:01,524
(humming Tom Sawyer)

1402
01:08:01,614 --> 01:08:04,284
They’re all air drumming,
he’s going, brap, brap, brap!

1403
01:08:04,384 --> 01:08:06,024
They’d be like, what?

1404
01:08:06,124 --> 01:08:08,964
- I asked him one time, how do
you get the air drummers?

1405
01:08:09,064 --> 01:08:10,234
I want that.

1406
01:08:10,324 --> 01:08:12,464
How do you get
the goddamn air drummers,

1407
01:08:12,564 --> 01:08:14,964
it’s amazing at a Rush
show to see them.

1408
01:08:15,064 --> 01:08:16,834
He goes-- and they’re all
doing it with him!

1409
01:08:16,934 --> 01:08:17,804
I want that!

1410
01:08:17,904 --> 01:08:21,004
(♪ Tom Sawyer ♪ by Rush)

1411
01:08:28,914 --> 01:08:30,784
♪ No, his mind
is not for rent ♪

1412
01:08:30,884 --> 01:08:33,584
♪ To any God or government ♪

1413
01:08:33,684 --> 01:08:36,524
♪ Always hopeful,
yet discontent ♪

1414
01:08:36,624 --> 01:08:40,164
♪ He knows changes
aren’t permanent ♪

1415
01:08:40,254 --> 01:08:43,294
♪ But change is ♪

1416
01:08:58,204 --> 01:09:00,804
♪ And what you say
about his company ♪

1417
01:09:00,914 --> 01:09:03,654
♪ Is what you say
about society ♪

1418
01:09:03,744 --> 01:09:06,844
♪ Catch the witness,
catch the wit ♪

1419
01:09:06,954 --> 01:09:10,354
♪ Catch the spirit,
catch the spit ♪

1420
01:09:17,364 --> 01:09:20,764
♪ The world is, the world is ♪

1421
01:09:20,864 --> 01:09:24,064
♪ Love and life are deep ♪

1422
01:09:25,304 --> 01:09:30,014
♪ Maybe as his eyes are wide ♪

1423
01:09:35,244 --> 01:09:37,844
♪ Exit the warrior,
today’s Tom Sawyer ♪

1424
01:09:37,944 --> 01:09:40,884
♪ He gets high on you
and the energy you trade ♪

1425
01:09:40,984 --> 01:09:45,454
♪ Right on to the friction
of the day ♪

1426
01:10:34,874 --> 01:10:36,574
(laughing)

1427
01:10:37,674 --> 01:10:40,874
- I about dropped my stick
on the big fill.

1428
01:10:40,974 --> 01:10:42,544
- Oh, of course.

1429
01:10:42,644 --> 01:10:44,244
- For Neil, it was
the toughest song

1430
01:10:44,344 --> 01:10:45,784
of the night for him.

1431
01:10:45,884 --> 01:10:47,324
- Really? Wow.
- Yeah.

1432
01:10:47,414 --> 01:10:49,214
- Yeah, that hi-hat is
pretty brutal, man.

1433
01:10:49,324 --> 01:10:51,294
- Thank you so much
for being here.

1434
01:10:51,384 --> 01:10:52,954
- Thank you for having me.

1435
01:10:53,054 --> 01:10:54,624
- Coming to play
these crazy songs,

1436
01:10:54,724 --> 01:10:56,564
but I like to think
he would be

1437
01:10:56,664 --> 01:10:58,234
just fucking enjoying
the hell out of this.

1438
01:10:58,324 --> 01:10:59,994
(laughing)

1439
01:11:00,094 --> 01:11:02,294
- He might be.
- Yeah, I hope so.

1440
01:11:02,404 --> 01:11:04,144
- Or laughing his head off.

1441
01:11:04,234 --> 01:11:06,774
- Yeah, I can hear him now,
not so easy, is it?

1442
01:11:06,874 --> 01:11:08,444
- That’s for sure.

1443
01:11:08,534 --> 01:11:10,604
- He would be saying,
haven’t you guys retired yet?

1444
01:11:10,704 --> 01:11:12,444
We tried, we failed.

1445
01:11:12,544 --> 01:11:14,684
- It happens.

1446
01:11:14,774 --> 01:11:17,114
- To be back playing music

1447
01:11:17,214 --> 01:11:19,614
that he had a part
in constructing is...

1448
01:11:19,714 --> 01:11:21,554
Is a way to do him honour.

1449
01:11:21,654 --> 01:11:24,094
- Yeah, yeah,
that’s the least I can do,

1450
01:11:24,184 --> 01:11:26,284
with all the inspiration
I’ve gotten from him,

1451
01:11:26,394 --> 01:11:27,634
you know, that’s for sure.

1452
01:11:27,724 --> 01:11:30,324
I wish I could’ve gotten out
and ridden some bikes with him

1453
01:11:30,424 --> 01:11:31,864
at the moor, you know...

1454
01:11:31,964 --> 01:11:34,264
- That’s a long ride.
He liked to ride...

1455
01:11:34,364 --> 01:11:37,104
- Yeah, I don’t know if I can
do that, what he did.

1456
01:11:37,204 --> 01:11:38,674
- 300 on a show day?

1457
01:11:38,774 --> 01:11:41,574
- Yeah, but before
his motorcycle period,

1458
01:11:41,674 --> 01:11:43,914
he would be riding
his bicycle.

1459
01:11:44,004 --> 01:11:45,844
And I remember one time
on a day off,

1460
01:11:45,944 --> 01:11:48,144
we played Milwaukee
and were going to Chicago,

1461
01:11:48,244 --> 01:11:50,944
he rode from Milwaukee to
Chicago on his day off.

1462
01:11:51,044 --> 01:11:52,784
- To Chicago? On a bicycle.
- On a bicycle.

1463
01:11:52,884 --> 01:11:54,884
And then he goes and does
a three-hour show.

1464
01:11:54,984 --> 01:11:56,524
Not normal.
- Yeah.

1465
01:11:56,624 --> 01:12:00,694
- I had started bicycling on
the Grace Under Pressure Tour,

1466
01:12:00,794 --> 01:12:02,234
so 1984,

1467
01:12:02,324 --> 01:12:04,394
and I just kept the bicycle
in the luggage bay of the bus

1468
01:12:04,494 --> 01:12:06,364
and pretty soon started riding
from city to city

1469
01:12:06,464 --> 01:12:08,734
and going for distance,
on the back roads, of course.

1470
01:12:08,834 --> 01:12:12,474
But I always knew that someday
I would ride a motorcycle.

1471
01:12:12,574 --> 01:12:14,914
In the ’90s,
I got into it big time.

1472
01:12:15,004 --> 01:12:16,544
And the last couple of tours,

1473
01:12:16,644 --> 01:12:18,084
I’ve travelled
completely independently,

1474
01:12:18,174 --> 01:12:20,114
set my own itinerary,
travelled the back roads

1475
01:12:20,214 --> 01:12:21,384
of America
and the small towns.

1476
01:12:21,474 --> 01:12:24,144
Takes enormous concentration
and mental discipline

1477
01:12:24,244 --> 01:12:25,684
on the motorcycle.

1478
01:12:25,784 --> 01:12:27,224
But there’s a whole
other kind of input

1479
01:12:27,314 --> 01:12:29,454
and a whole other kind
of mental activity created.

1480
01:12:29,554 --> 01:12:31,494
I have a lot of good
reflections and ideas

1481
01:12:31,584 --> 01:12:33,484
on work and possibilities,

1482
01:12:33,594 --> 01:12:35,564
because your mind
is at such a high pitch.

1483
01:12:35,664 --> 01:12:37,364
And there are many
times I stop,

1484
01:12:37,464 --> 01:12:39,034
and I always have
a little notebook with me,

1485
01:12:39,134 --> 01:12:40,874
if there was some reflection
that you want to get down

1486
01:12:40,964 --> 01:12:42,304
in ink before you forget it

1487
01:12:42,404 --> 01:12:43,874
and something
else fills your mind.

1488
01:12:43,964 --> 01:12:45,364
So all of that
is part of my writing,

1489
01:12:45,474 --> 01:12:49,565
and all of my
even creative thinking.

1490
01:12:49,655 --> 01:12:51,155
(Matt):
Neil had an effortless,

1491
01:12:51,255 --> 01:12:54,325
conversational voice
as an author.

1492
01:12:54,425 --> 01:12:58,125
Lyric writing is largely,
if not all about economy.

1493
01:12:59,205 --> 01:13:01,275
Trimming it down,
making it function

1494
01:13:01,365 --> 01:13:03,735
for a singer and a melody.

1495
01:13:03,835 --> 01:13:06,275
But his voice
as a prose author

1496
01:13:06,375 --> 01:13:08,215
was far more casual.

1497
01:13:08,305 --> 01:13:10,475
Much more about how he feels

1498
01:13:10,575 --> 01:13:13,015
in certain moments
and certain places.

1499
01:13:13,115 --> 01:13:16,285
You know, for someone who was
so intensely private,

1500
01:13:16,385 --> 01:13:18,855
it was fascinating to me

1501
01:13:18,955 --> 01:13:22,325
how revealing he was
in his prose.

1502
01:13:22,425 --> 01:13:25,895
Again, like, kind of
a contradiction.

1503
01:13:33,865 --> 01:13:35,535
(engine revs)

1504
01:13:35,635 --> 01:13:37,035
(Geddy): When you’re writing,

1505
01:13:37,135 --> 01:13:39,405
you’re having a conversation
with yourself.

1506
01:13:39,505 --> 01:13:42,045
And that’s a great
audience for him.

1507
01:13:42,145 --> 01:13:44,245
So he could bare his soul,

1508
01:13:44,345 --> 01:13:46,385
he could share
all these thoughts

1509
01:13:46,485 --> 01:13:47,885
about a million things,

1510
01:13:47,985 --> 01:13:50,855
in that form much more easily.

1511
01:13:50,955 --> 01:13:54,625
And you establish
a conversation with yourself,

1512
01:13:54,725 --> 01:13:56,895
to help you sort
your heart out,

1513
01:13:56,995 --> 01:13:58,795
help you sort
your emotions out.

1514
01:13:58,895 --> 01:14:00,765
It’s really therapeutic.

1515
01:14:00,865 --> 01:14:03,435
And artful, at the same time.

1516
01:14:03,535 --> 01:14:06,475
So all those things
are very appealing.

1517
01:14:06,565 --> 01:14:08,435
And so it’s...

1518
01:14:08,535 --> 01:14:12,505
That’s what his book,
Ghost Rider, was for him.

1519
01:14:38,935 --> 01:14:40,775
(Alex): He got on his bike

1520
01:14:40,865 --> 01:14:43,465
and did all those
epic journeys

1521
01:14:43,575 --> 01:14:45,775
across Canada
and up into Alaska,

1522
01:14:45,875 --> 01:14:48,915
down through America,
into South America, and back.

1523
01:14:49,005 --> 01:14:51,845
To be one step
ahead of the ghosts

1524
01:14:51,945 --> 01:14:54,685
that were chasing him
all the time.

1525
01:14:54,785 --> 01:14:56,785
And he lived with...

1526
01:14:58,615 --> 01:15:00,885
With what he’d gone through,
you know,

1527
01:15:00,985 --> 01:15:04,325
every second of the day,
as I would imagine

1528
01:15:04,425 --> 01:15:06,395
every person
that’s lost a child.

1529
01:15:06,495 --> 01:15:09,495
Never mind, and a wife,
goes through.

1530
01:15:09,595 --> 01:15:12,195
It never ends.

1531
01:15:12,295 --> 01:15:15,365
And just to survive,
he needed to be a step ahead.

1532
01:15:15,465 --> 01:15:18,205
- He was running from himself,
I think, in some ways.

1533
01:15:20,075 --> 01:15:23,975
But what a horror
he had to run from,

1534
01:15:24,075 --> 01:15:26,745
losing his
family as he did.

1535
01:15:26,845 --> 01:15:30,945
And so, being
the natural writer he is,

1536
01:15:31,055 --> 01:15:32,555
I think for his own sanity

1537
01:15:32,655 --> 01:15:34,855
he needed to write
that stuff down.

1538
01:15:34,955 --> 01:15:38,025
And of course, it’s an
incredible piece of writing.

1539
01:15:38,125 --> 01:15:42,325
And he doesn’t
whitewash anything.

1540
01:15:48,605 --> 01:15:52,805
Everything I ever believed has
been blown out of the water,

1541
01:15:52,905 --> 01:15:55,475
even my simple
karmic morality of,

1542
01:15:55,575 --> 01:15:58,145
you do good
and you get good.

1543
01:15:58,245 --> 01:16:02,045
Sadly, very sadly,
it ain’t so.

1544
01:16:03,185 --> 01:16:05,785
Earlier today, while riding,
I was thinking

1545
01:16:05,885 --> 01:16:07,525
of how missing my girls

1546
01:16:07,625 --> 01:16:09,765
was so often like
a physical ache.

1547
01:16:09,855 --> 01:16:13,855
And just now, that connected
with the ghost rider,

1548
01:16:13,965 --> 01:16:15,965
phantom pain.

1549
01:16:16,065 --> 01:16:19,935
Hurting for a piece of you
that’s been torn away.

1550
01:16:23,905 --> 01:16:26,945
(Matt): I read Ghost Rider
before I met him.

1551
01:16:27,045 --> 01:16:30,315
And the fact that
he released that book...

1552
01:16:31,445 --> 01:16:35,285
I still can’t believe that
that’s out there,

1553
01:16:35,385 --> 01:16:38,955
because of how
brutal that time

1554
01:16:39,055 --> 01:16:41,025
must have been for him.

1555
01:16:42,255 --> 01:16:44,595
Travels on the healing road,
that’s the subtitle.

1556
01:16:44,695 --> 01:16:46,895
And I think maybe,
on some level,

1557
01:16:46,995 --> 01:16:49,695
he was hoping
that his experiences

1558
01:16:49,795 --> 01:16:51,935
could be helpful
to someone else

1559
01:16:52,035 --> 01:16:54,675
who might be experiencing
something similar.

1560
01:17:01,005 --> 01:17:03,575
(Neil): It was a long
and very desperate trip,

1561
01:17:03,675 --> 01:17:05,675
especially when you’re trying
to claw your way back to life.

1562
01:17:05,775 --> 01:17:07,315
Basically,
I travelled non-stop.

1563
01:17:07,415 --> 01:17:08,755
And certainly,
it was ruthless,

1564
01:17:08,845 --> 01:17:10,245
travelling all that time.

1565
01:17:10,355 --> 01:17:12,825
It was when I came to rest
and I came out to California

1566
01:17:12,925 --> 01:17:16,025
and met my wife to be
and moved out here,

1567
01:17:16,125 --> 01:17:18,365
I had a suitcase,

1568
01:17:18,455 --> 01:17:20,155
a ghetto-blaster
and a bicycle,

1569
01:17:20,265 --> 01:17:21,635
those were my possessions.

1570
01:17:21,725 --> 01:17:23,695
And I used to write a lot
of letters at that time, too.

1571
01:17:23,795 --> 01:17:25,595
And I’d write to
friends saying,

1572
01:17:25,695 --> 01:17:27,135
I’m freer than any man
ought to be

1573
01:17:27,235 --> 01:17:29,505
and ever wants to be,
you know?

1574
01:17:29,605 --> 01:17:33,675
I had nothing to hold on to
and nothing to be attached to.

1575
01:17:33,775 --> 01:17:35,815
And it was a wonderful
place to start from.

1576
01:17:35,905 --> 01:17:37,805
So then I got some
stability there,

1577
01:17:37,915 --> 01:17:41,415
with Carrie’s help,
then realized that I was...

1578
01:17:41,515 --> 01:17:43,685
I was wanting to work again.

1579
01:17:43,785 --> 01:17:46,325
So that’s basically
what it took,

1580
01:17:46,425 --> 01:17:48,365
I had to stop moving first.

1581
01:17:57,565 --> 01:17:59,235
(laughing)

1582
01:17:59,335 --> 01:18:00,835
- Oh, that’s a nice sound.

1583
01:18:02,675 --> 01:18:03,945
Beautiful.

1584
01:18:04,035 --> 01:18:06,135
(plays drums)

1585
01:18:06,245 --> 01:18:07,715
You ready?

1586
01:18:07,805 --> 01:18:09,245
- Yes, sir.

1587
01:18:09,345 --> 01:18:12,485
- One... Two...
One, two, three, four.

1588
01:18:12,575 --> 01:18:15,078
(♪ Far Cry ♪ by Rush playing)

1589
01:19:02,828 --> 01:19:07,068
♪ Pariah dogs
and wandering madmen ♪

1590
01:19:07,168 --> 01:19:10,838
♪ Barking at strangers
and speaking in tongues ♪

1591
01:19:10,938 --> 01:19:14,008
♪ The ebb and flow
of tidal fortune ♪

1592
01:19:14,108 --> 01:19:18,878
♪ Electrical changes are
charging up the young ♪

1593
01:19:22,818 --> 01:19:25,318
♪ It’s a far cry
from the world ♪

1594
01:19:25,418 --> 01:19:28,118
♪ We thought we’d inherit ♪

1595
01:19:30,228 --> 01:19:35,168
♪ It’s a far cry from the way
we thought we’d share it ♪

1596
01:19:37,968 --> 01:19:42,008
♪ You can almost feel
the current flowing ♪

1597
01:19:42,098 --> 01:19:46,198
♪ You can almost see
the circuits blowing ♪

1598
01:19:46,308 --> 01:19:49,578
♪ One day I feel
I’m on top of the world ♪

1599
01:19:49,678 --> 01:19:52,818
♪ It’s falling in on me ♪

1600
01:19:52,918 --> 01:19:55,158
♪ I can get back on ♪

1601
01:19:55,248 --> 01:19:57,448
♪ I can get back on ♪

1602
01:19:57,548 --> 01:20:01,118
♪ One day I feel
I’m ahead of the wheel ♪

1603
01:20:01,218 --> 01:20:05,018
♪ Next it’s rolling over me ♪

1604
01:20:05,128 --> 01:20:06,968
♪ I can get back on ♪

1605
01:20:07,058 --> 01:20:09,228
♪ I can get back on ♪

1606
01:20:12,128 --> 01:20:13,968
(Nick): Some songs,
like Far Cry,

1607
01:20:14,068 --> 01:20:16,508
I just loved to listen
to Neil play the drums.

1608
01:20:16,608 --> 01:20:18,308
Nobody plays drums
like that, you know?

1609
01:20:18,408 --> 01:20:20,378
’Cause he’s got such
a bag of tricks, I mean,

1610
01:20:20,478 --> 01:20:21,778
he can literally do anything.

1611
01:20:21,878 --> 01:20:25,348
Any rhythm, any pattern,
any anything, he can do it.

1612
01:20:25,448 --> 01:20:27,588
There’s nothing I could throw
at him that he couldn’t do.

1613
01:20:27,678 --> 01:20:30,718
So when it came time to make
the Clockwork Angels record,

1614
01:20:30,818 --> 01:20:34,458
we really pushed hard,
maximum Neil.

1615
01:20:34,558 --> 01:20:36,358
There’s some songs
on there that I think are some

1616
01:20:36,458 --> 01:20:37,858
of the most challenging
drum parts

1617
01:20:37,958 --> 01:20:40,058
he’s done on any
of the songs, ever.

1618
01:20:42,928 --> 01:20:44,528
- Hey, you know what else
would kick ass

1619
01:20:44,628 --> 01:20:46,528
that you just did,
that you hadn’t done yet?

1620
01:20:46,638 --> 01:20:48,838
When you went into the verse,
you took the hi-hat out...

1621
01:20:48,938 --> 01:20:50,478
Doo-doo, grah.
- Yeah.

1622
01:20:50,568 --> 01:20:51,968
- That was awesome.

1623
01:20:52,068 --> 01:20:53,968
That was really great,
that space right there.

1624
01:20:54,078 --> 01:20:55,718
- I jumped it,
I jumped the crash.

1625
01:20:55,808 --> 01:20:57,378
- Yeah, that was awesome.

1626
01:20:57,478 --> 01:20:58,878
- What would
you like to do now?

1627
01:20:58,978 --> 01:21:00,718
- Let’s do it one more time.
- From where?

1628
01:21:00,818 --> 01:21:02,118
- From the top.
- Oh.

1629
01:21:02,218 --> 01:21:03,688
- One more time from the top.
- Fucker.

1630
01:21:03,788 --> 01:21:05,358
- Just like we just did.
- Okay.

1631
01:21:05,448 --> 01:21:07,318
(laughing)

1632
01:21:07,418 --> 01:21:08,888
You know I’m perspiring.

1633
01:21:08,988 --> 01:21:10,828
(Nick): Towards the end
of the sessions,

1634
01:21:10,928 --> 01:21:12,528
I remember he came in one day

1635
01:21:12,628 --> 01:21:14,068
and I remember he said

1636
01:21:14,158 --> 01:21:15,558
his shoulder started
to hurt him a little bit.

1637
01:21:15,658 --> 01:21:17,098
Didn’t really think much of it

1638
01:21:17,198 --> 01:21:18,738
and then we
finished the record.

1639
01:21:18,828 --> 01:21:20,398
(groaning)

1640
01:21:20,498 --> 01:21:22,268
I remember going out
and seeing them

1641
01:21:22,368 --> 01:21:24,338
on the Clockwork tour
and hanging out with him

1642
01:21:24,438 --> 01:21:26,878
and I remember him saying,
you know, Bouge, I’m tired.

1643
01:21:26,978 --> 01:21:28,578
My feet hurt, I’m sore.

1644
01:21:28,678 --> 01:21:30,178
That was the first time
I remember him

1645
01:21:30,278 --> 01:21:31,978
kinda saying anything.

1646
01:21:32,078 --> 01:21:34,718
(crowd cheering)

1647
01:21:38,818 --> 01:21:41,218
(Danny): When you play
like Neil, it’s very physical,

1648
01:21:41,318 --> 01:21:42,488
double kick
and two bass drums.

1649
01:21:42,588 --> 01:21:44,828
Just the dynamic
quality of it all

1650
01:21:44,928 --> 01:21:47,098
and when you go to do
something like that

1651
01:21:47,198 --> 01:21:48,538
and then your body
just can’t do it,

1652
01:21:48,628 --> 01:21:49,658
it can get frustrating.

1653
01:21:49,768 --> 01:21:51,338
Especially when you
go back and play,

1654
01:21:51,428 --> 01:21:53,698
like, your earlier songs,
I’m starting to feel that now,

1655
01:21:53,798 --> 01:21:55,838
even, like I’m 64 so

1656
01:21:55,938 --> 01:21:58,838
the stuff I did when
I was 33, man...

1657
01:21:58,938 --> 01:22:00,838
I was hitting harder,
you know?

1658
01:22:00,938 --> 01:22:02,678
It was just a whole
different vibe.

1659
01:22:02,778 --> 01:22:04,548
- I’m 64 fucking years old.

1660
01:22:04,648 --> 01:22:06,788
I can’t believe it!
It’s crazy to me!

1661
01:22:06,878 --> 01:22:09,878
’Cause I’m still a kid
that just plays the drums

1662
01:22:09,988 --> 01:22:11,788
and I’m the luckiest
person in the world,

1663
01:22:11,888 --> 01:22:13,758
to do what I love to do,
but like,

1664
01:22:13,858 --> 01:22:15,598
when you get done playing,
I mean,

1665
01:22:15,688 --> 01:22:17,458
our backstage looks like
a fucking infirmary,

1666
01:22:17,558 --> 01:22:19,398
it’s like, this guy’s
in the ice bath,

1667
01:22:19,498 --> 01:22:21,168
and this guy got
the thing on his knee.

1668
01:22:21,258 --> 01:22:24,758
And I’ve got a shoulder thing,
like a pitcher.

1669
01:22:26,068 --> 01:22:27,868
(spectator whistles)

1670
01:22:31,008 --> 01:22:32,748
(Geddy): Neil used to
describe drumming

1671
01:22:32,838 --> 01:22:34,738
as running a marathon
while doing math equations.

1672
01:22:34,838 --> 01:22:38,838
So when he says at the end
of a tour, I’m exhausted.

1673
01:22:38,948 --> 01:22:41,918
He’s not just saying
he’s physically spent,

1674
01:22:42,018 --> 01:22:43,988
he’s exhausted.

1675
01:22:44,088 --> 01:22:46,988
He was playing
in great discomfort

1676
01:22:47,088 --> 01:22:50,058
and I think that makes
you more aware

1677
01:22:50,158 --> 01:22:51,728
of losing your powers,

1678
01:22:51,828 --> 01:22:53,968
knowing how hard it is

1679
01:22:54,058 --> 01:22:56,998
to maintain
your level of excellence.

1680
01:22:57,098 --> 01:22:58,668
And how painful it would be

1681
01:22:58,768 --> 01:23:01,338
not to be able
to maintain that.

1682
01:23:01,438 --> 01:23:03,738
We’d like to play
a song for you tonight

1683
01:23:03,838 --> 01:23:05,908
that we’ve never played live.

1684
01:23:06,008 --> 01:23:08,078
The song is called Losing It.

1685
01:23:08,178 --> 01:23:10,748
(crowd cheers)

1686
01:23:10,848 --> 01:23:13,688
(♪ Losing It ♪ by Rush)

1687
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,729
(Neil): A song like Losing It
was written about a movie,

1688
01:23:18,829 --> 01:23:20,499
The Turning Point,
where they had a dancer,

1689
01:23:20,599 --> 01:23:22,239
and she reached that point
where suddenly,

1690
01:23:22,329 --> 01:23:23,729
her ambitions
and her desires

1691
01:23:23,829 --> 01:23:25,699
were being betrayed
by her body.

1692
01:23:25,799 --> 01:23:27,939
And another input
into that same song

1693
01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:29,609
was the tragedy of
Ernest Hemingway

1694
01:23:29,709 --> 01:23:31,209
when he got toward
the end of his life

1695
01:23:31,309 --> 01:23:32,879
and he just simply
couldn’t write anymore.

1696
01:23:32,979 --> 01:23:35,219
Is it worse to have had
that gift and to have used it

1697
01:23:35,309 --> 01:23:37,379
and to have lived it,
and then to have to lose it,

1698
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:38,849
and say goodbye to it.

1699
01:23:38,949 --> 01:23:40,549
I would hate to face the day
when I’m betrayed

1700
01:23:40,649 --> 01:23:42,389
by my own body, you know,
where suddenly,

1701
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,619
the things that I want to do
in life, I’m unable to.

1702
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:46,389
I think it would be
such a deep tragedy,

1703
01:23:46,489 --> 01:23:48,559
that it would lead to the kind
of feelings of despair

1704
01:23:48,659 --> 01:23:51,229
that Ernest Hemingway was
driven to kill himself for.

1705
01:23:51,329 --> 01:23:54,669
♪ The writer stares with
glassy eyes ♪

1706
01:23:54,759 --> 01:23:56,659
♪ Defies the empty page ♪

1707
01:23:56,769 --> 01:23:58,769
♪ His beard is white,
his face is lined ♪

1708
01:23:58,869 --> 01:24:02,769
♪ And streaked
with tears of rage ♪

1709
01:24:02,869 --> 01:24:06,169
♪ Thirty years ago,
how the words would flow ♪

1710
01:24:06,279 --> 01:24:08,349
♪ With passion and precision ♪

1711
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,109
♪ But now his mind
is dark and dulled ♪

1712
01:24:11,209 --> 01:24:14,309
♪ By sickness and indecision ♪

1713
01:24:14,419 --> 01:24:16,889
(Neil): To go out on the top
and not face the diminishing

1714
01:24:16,989 --> 01:24:19,489
of your ability, that’s what
I couldn’t face.

1715
01:24:19,589 --> 01:24:23,459
Having to face losing it
as my body evolves,

1716
01:24:23,559 --> 01:24:27,159
playing those same songs,
the drain of that performance.

1717
01:24:27,259 --> 01:24:29,299
Every second night,
every second night,

1718
01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:31,799
every second night,
you know, I’m 63 years old!

1719
01:24:31,899 --> 01:24:34,669
And in eight years,
I’ll be 71! You know?

1720
01:24:34,769 --> 01:24:37,109
I can play Charlie Watts’
drum parts when I’m 71,

1721
01:24:37,209 --> 01:24:39,609
I can’t play Neil Peart
drum parts when I’m 71.

1722
01:24:40,779 --> 01:24:43,649
{\an8}♪ For you, the blind
who once could see ♪

1723
01:24:43,749 --> 01:24:47,819
{\an8}♪ The bell tolls for thee ♪

1724
01:24:49,219 --> 01:24:52,389
- Sadder still to watch it die
than never to have known it.

1725
01:24:52,489 --> 01:24:54,659
For you, the blind
who once could see.

1726
01:24:54,759 --> 01:24:56,899
The bell tolls for thee.

1727
01:24:56,989 --> 01:24:59,829
This is all about
his deepest fears.

1728
01:24:59,929 --> 01:25:02,969
I mean, he was
playing incredibly well

1729
01:25:03,069 --> 01:25:06,309
on that last tour, and yet,
it was fear like this

1730
01:25:06,399 --> 01:25:09,999
that made him say to himself,

1731
01:25:10,109 --> 01:25:12,449
I am not going to
go out on stage

1732
01:25:12,539 --> 01:25:14,439
and embarrass myself, ever.

1733
01:25:22,249 --> 01:25:25,489
- In 2014, I thought,
hmm, so we have to talk.

1734
01:25:25,589 --> 01:25:28,629
Those fateful words,
guys, we have to talk.

1735
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:31,019
So in November of that year,

1736
01:25:31,129 --> 01:25:32,869
we all got together in Toronto

1737
01:25:32,959 --> 01:25:35,129
and I was quite prepared to
say, guys, you know, sorry,

1738
01:25:35,229 --> 01:25:38,399
but I’m done.

1739
01:25:38,499 --> 01:25:41,799
- I had surgery
before the last tour

1740
01:25:41,899 --> 01:25:43,699
and I just wanted to do
one more tour

1741
01:25:43,809 --> 01:25:45,609
and he came to Toronto and...

1742
01:25:45,709 --> 01:25:47,849
- He didn’t want to do it.
- He didn’t want to do it.

1743
01:25:47,939 --> 01:25:49,779
He came to tell us
that he’s done. He’s finished.

1744
01:25:49,879 --> 01:25:52,479
And there’s nothing wrong
with that, you know?

1745
01:25:52,579 --> 01:25:54,749
38 years of touring,

1746
01:25:54,849 --> 01:25:57,419
he’s got the toughest
job by far.

1747
01:25:57,519 --> 01:25:59,389
- Wait a sec.
(chuckling)

1748
01:25:59,489 --> 01:26:01,429
- I know I do normally, but...

1749
01:26:01,519 --> 01:26:04,919
But because I said
that I hadn’t felt well

1750
01:26:05,029 --> 01:26:07,099
on the previous tours, and now
I had a chance to feel good

1751
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:10,099
on one last tour, and I would
love to go back on the road.

1752
01:26:10,199 --> 01:26:13,369
- I’d left one little window
open in my mind, really,

1753
01:26:13,469 --> 01:26:16,239
that if anybody said they
wanted to do it one more time,

1754
01:26:16,339 --> 01:26:18,309
and didn’t know if
they’d be able to...

1755
01:26:18,409 --> 01:26:19,949
It was like, okay, so,

1756
01:26:20,039 --> 01:26:23,039
the bastard pulled
that exact card.

1757
01:26:23,149 --> 01:26:25,819
Alex, said, well, he’s got
the arthritis and that, said,

1758
01:26:25,909 --> 01:26:27,779
I’d really like to do
it one more time.

1759
01:26:27,879 --> 01:26:31,019
(Alex): Despite breaking
him into a million pieces,

1760
01:26:31,119 --> 01:26:34,489
he agreed to it,
and would do that for me.

1761
01:26:34,589 --> 01:26:36,589
(Geddy): Yeah, he
did it for you.

1762
01:26:36,689 --> 01:26:38,189
He did it for you.
- Yeah.

1763
01:26:38,289 --> 01:26:40,259
- And he said
afterwards, he said,

1764
01:26:40,359 --> 01:26:45,299
I was prepared to end
unless Alex said that.

1765
01:26:45,399 --> 01:26:47,999
And that fuckin’ guy
went and said that.

1766
01:26:48,099 --> 01:26:49,499
(laughing)

1767
01:26:49,599 --> 01:26:52,969
But, you know, he moaned,
he said he spent the night

1768
01:26:53,079 --> 01:26:56,249
storming around his hotel room
saying fuck a million times.

1769
01:26:56,339 --> 01:26:58,339
But he woke up the next day
and that was it.

1770
01:26:58,449 --> 01:27:00,419
He was getting
ready for the tour.

1771
01:27:00,519 --> 01:27:02,219
He made a decision,
he’ll stick by it.

1772
01:27:02,319 --> 01:27:05,659
♪ One day I feel I’m
on top of the world ♪

1773
01:27:05,749 --> 01:27:09,419
♪ The next it’s falling
in on me ♪

1774
01:27:09,519 --> 01:27:11,019
♪ I can get back on ♪

1775
01:27:11,129 --> 01:27:12,999
♪ I can get back on ♪

1776
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:16,969
♪ One day I feel I’m
ahead of the wheel ♪

1777
01:27:17,069 --> 01:27:21,169
♪ Next it’s rolling over me ♪

1778
01:27:21,269 --> 01:27:23,309
♪ I can get back on ♪

1779
01:27:23,409 --> 01:27:25,509
♪ I can get back on ♪

1780
01:27:25,609 --> 01:27:28,879
♪ One day I fly through
a crack in the sky ♪

1781
01:27:28,979 --> 01:27:32,349
♪ And the next
it’s falling in on me ♪

1782
01:27:32,449 --> 01:27:34,589
♪ I can get back on ♪

1783
01:27:34,679 --> 01:27:36,849
♪ I can get back on ♪

1784
01:27:42,789 --> 01:27:47,259
♪ Oh, I can get back on,
I can get back on ♪

1785
01:28:03,979 --> 01:28:07,079
(crowd cheering)

1786
01:28:11,089 --> 01:28:13,159
(Alex): I hope that there’s
some way

1787
01:28:13,259 --> 01:28:15,599
of showing a human
side to Neil,

1788
01:28:15,689 --> 01:28:19,059
it’s not just all this
serious drummer thing.

1789
01:28:19,159 --> 01:28:20,829
The guy that was funny,

1790
01:28:20,929 --> 01:28:23,499
the guy that was very
considerate and sweet.

1791
01:28:23,599 --> 01:28:26,399
Who cared about
his friends a lot.

1792
01:28:26,499 --> 01:28:30,299
He felt he had
a debt to repay, I think,

1793
01:28:30,409 --> 01:28:31,979
to both of us for the support,

1794
01:28:32,069 --> 01:28:33,909
not that we’d ever
expected anything,

1795
01:28:34,009 --> 01:28:35,649
you just do what you do,
it’s your brother

1796
01:28:35,739 --> 01:28:37,539
going through a nightmare

1797
01:28:37,649 --> 01:28:39,249
when he was going through
the death of his daughter

1798
01:28:39,349 --> 01:28:41,489
and wife and all of that.

1799
01:28:41,579 --> 01:28:42,709
And we stood behind him

1800
01:28:42,819 --> 01:28:45,119
and helped him through
as best we could.

1801
01:28:45,219 --> 01:28:46,759
And he never forgot that.

1802
01:28:46,859 --> 01:28:49,229
And I think, frankly,
he ended up touring longer

1803
01:28:49,319 --> 01:28:51,089
than he would’ve preferred to

1804
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:53,589
because he felt that
he owed that debt.

1805
01:28:53,699 --> 01:28:55,739
(Lorne):
It was like any other tour,

1806
01:28:55,829 --> 01:28:57,899
you weren’t really thinking
about the end coming

1807
01:28:57,999 --> 01:29:01,069
until it actually hit you
in the face on that day,

1808
01:29:01,169 --> 01:29:03,039
August 1st, 2015.

1809
01:29:03,139 --> 01:29:05,639
And once you do,
he gets up at the last song

1810
01:29:05,739 --> 01:29:07,979
and goes down to
the front of the stage.

1811
01:29:08,079 --> 01:29:10,119
He never did that, ever.

1812
01:29:10,209 --> 01:29:11,709
And burst into tears.

1813
01:29:12,949 --> 01:29:16,819
That’s when you knew that,
God, this is the end.

1814
01:29:17,989 --> 01:29:20,629
- On behalf of our whole
organization, thank you!

1815
01:29:23,229 --> 01:29:25,199
For 40 awesome years.

1816
01:29:25,289 --> 01:29:28,059
And I do hope we’ll meet
again sometime.

1817
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:29,629
Bye-bye!

1818
01:29:29,729 --> 01:29:32,869
Of course,
he wouldn’t add more shows,

1819
01:29:32,969 --> 01:29:34,509
and he wouldn’t budge.

1820
01:29:34,599 --> 01:29:37,639
He agreed to do 30 shows
and 30 shows he did,

1821
01:29:37,739 --> 01:29:39,679
he fulfilled his obligation.

1822
01:29:39,769 --> 01:29:41,339
And, um...

1823
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,839
The cruelest twist of all,

1824
01:29:43,949 --> 01:29:45,489
it was the fact
that he got ill.

1825
01:29:45,579 --> 01:29:47,319
- Mm-hmm.

1826
01:29:50,219 --> 01:29:52,389
(producer): Can you tell me
when you found out

1827
01:29:52,489 --> 01:29:54,429
that Neil was sick?

1828
01:29:55,919 --> 01:29:58,359
- Rita and I went to Quebec,

1829
01:29:58,459 --> 01:30:02,329
the last time that we
went to Quebec together

1830
01:30:02,429 --> 01:30:05,329
and he asked
the strangest questions,

1831
01:30:05,429 --> 01:30:07,669
and Rita was like, is there
something wrong with him?

1832
01:30:07,769 --> 01:30:09,539
I said, I don’t know.

1833
01:30:09,639 --> 01:30:11,839
And then at one point,
he said to me, he said,

1834
01:30:11,939 --> 01:30:15,039
and he was an avid
crossword doer, as am I,

1835
01:30:15,139 --> 01:30:17,039
and he said, have
they changed the way

1836
01:30:17,149 --> 01:30:18,689
they format crosswords?

1837
01:30:19,749 --> 01:30:22,649
I said, no.
No, I don’t think so.

1838
01:30:22,749 --> 01:30:25,289
- He mentioned to me
that he had been doing

1839
01:30:25,389 --> 01:30:28,659
the New York Times
crossword puzzle up in Quebec

1840
01:30:28,759 --> 01:30:31,559
and that it was
seeming harder to him.

1841
01:30:31,659 --> 01:30:35,129
Which, for anybody else,
you know...

1842
01:30:36,499 --> 01:30:38,269
You’re not doing
the New York Times

1843
01:30:38,369 --> 01:30:40,839
crossword puzzle in an hour,
or whatever, in a morning,

1844
01:30:40,939 --> 01:30:43,109
it’s just not happening, so.

1845
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:45,669
I think maybe even when he
told me, I just thought,

1846
01:30:45,769 --> 01:30:47,739
well, buddy.

1847
01:30:47,839 --> 01:30:49,439
Welcome to humanity.

1848
01:30:49,539 --> 01:30:52,779
Like, you’re having
a human moment, you know.

1849
01:30:54,179 --> 01:30:57,519
But, you know,
eventually it became clear

1850
01:30:57,619 --> 01:31:00,359
that there was
something else going on.

1851
01:31:00,459 --> 01:31:04,129
- I heard from him
and he said,

1852
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:09,769
something’s wrong,
I have a tumour in my brain

1853
01:31:11,269 --> 01:31:12,939
and I just had surgery.

1854
01:31:13,029 --> 01:31:14,699
Or something like that.

1855
01:31:14,799 --> 01:31:17,739
It was a short paragraph.

1856
01:31:17,839 --> 01:31:21,479
And I read that over
and over again...

1857
01:31:23,449 --> 01:31:27,189
in disbelief, I don’t even
think I answered for a day,

1858
01:31:27,279 --> 01:31:29,449
I was so shocked.

1859
01:31:29,549 --> 01:31:31,919
I didn’t tell anyone.

1860
01:31:32,019 --> 01:31:33,589
No one.

1861
01:31:33,689 --> 01:31:35,959
I could only imagine
what Geddy and Alex

1862
01:31:36,059 --> 01:31:38,059
and their families
and, you know,

1863
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:39,959
Carrie and Olivia

1864
01:31:40,059 --> 01:31:44,329
and the rest of the Pearts
were experiencing.

1865
01:31:44,429 --> 01:31:46,599
- The news was not good

1866
01:31:46,699 --> 01:31:51,609
and he surpassed everybody’s

1867
01:31:51,709 --> 01:31:53,779
estimations for how long

1868
01:31:53,879 --> 01:31:55,419
he was gonna be able
to fight this battle,

1869
01:31:55,509 --> 01:31:57,549
by orders of magnitude.

1870
01:31:59,009 --> 01:32:00,309
Um...

1871
01:32:02,379 --> 01:32:05,719
So, the Friday
lunches became...

1872
01:32:08,089 --> 01:32:10,289
Maybe just that
much more important.

1873
01:32:10,389 --> 01:32:15,659
You know, he was still going
to the Cave and still working.

1874
01:32:15,759 --> 01:32:19,199
But you could see that his...

1875
01:32:19,299 --> 01:32:22,499
body was failing
and he...

1876
01:32:22,599 --> 01:32:26,339
It was, just everything
was getting harder.

1877
01:32:27,239 --> 01:32:31,479
- I went to the Man Cave.

1878
01:32:33,349 --> 01:32:34,819
And...

1879
01:32:37,119 --> 01:32:38,919
It was obvious.

1880
01:32:40,789 --> 01:32:42,829
And um... At the end...

1881
01:32:47,059 --> 01:32:48,329
we said goodbye.

1882
01:32:51,399 --> 01:32:53,499
I knew I was never
going to see him again.

1883
01:32:55,799 --> 01:32:58,639
- As Neil was getting closer,

1884
01:32:58,739 --> 01:33:01,709
he invited me over to
the house one afternoon

1885
01:33:01,809 --> 01:33:04,849
and we sat on his balcony
and he said, you know,

1886
01:33:04,949 --> 01:33:09,219
I wanted to ask you if you
would lead the memorial.

1887
01:33:09,319 --> 01:33:11,859
And I said, I’m honoured to.

1888
01:33:11,949 --> 01:33:14,389
I have two questions.

1889
01:33:14,489 --> 01:33:15,489
One...

1890
01:33:18,459 --> 01:33:20,799
anything you want me
to say in particular?

1891
01:33:20,899 --> 01:33:23,439
He said, no, say
exactly what you want.

1892
01:33:23,529 --> 01:33:26,229
And then I said,
my other question is...

1893
01:33:26,329 --> 01:33:28,369
I don’t know why
I asked him this.

1894
01:33:28,469 --> 01:33:30,539
I said, how long should
I speak?

1895
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:32,909
(laughing)

1896
01:33:33,009 --> 01:33:35,509
- My last conversation
with him...

1897
01:33:35,609 --> 01:33:39,049
was about music.

1898
01:33:39,149 --> 01:33:41,619
Of course, neither of us knew

1899
01:33:41,719 --> 01:33:43,689
it would be
our last conversation,

1900
01:33:43,789 --> 01:33:46,929
but, he started
that conversation

1901
01:33:47,019 --> 01:33:49,889
by wanting to share
with me how...

1902
01:33:51,829 --> 01:33:55,599
proud he was of the work
we had done together.

1903
01:33:56,729 --> 01:34:01,639
And so, he knew his days
were numbered, so...

1904
01:34:01,739 --> 01:34:05,079
There are things he
wanted to say to his friends.

1905
01:34:06,309 --> 01:34:09,249
(Matt): We were over at
the Cave one day and...

1906
01:34:10,679 --> 01:34:14,949
And he had retired
from riding motorcycles

1907
01:34:15,049 --> 01:34:19,919
and so he had mounted
his motorcycle up on the wall,

1908
01:34:20,019 --> 01:34:22,389
’cause it was no longer going
to be ridden.

1909
01:34:22,489 --> 01:34:25,059
And he pointed up
at the motorcycle

1910
01:34:25,159 --> 01:34:26,629
and he said, I made it,
I did it.

1911
01:34:26,729 --> 01:34:27,999
That didn’t get me.

1912
01:34:28,099 --> 01:34:31,469
And he had this smile on
his face when he said it,

1913
01:34:32,629 --> 01:34:34,529
right, you know?

1914
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:36,609
And...

1915
01:34:36,699 --> 01:34:37,969
So...

1916
01:34:39,409 --> 01:34:42,379
I want to just celebrate
that we had him

1917
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,049
for as long as we
had him and that...

1918
01:34:47,879 --> 01:34:49,279
It’s hard.

1919
01:34:53,419 --> 01:34:55,889
To find somebody who’s...

1920
01:34:57,459 --> 01:35:00,899
that special
and then lose him.

1921
01:35:02,859 --> 01:35:04,799
But the bike didn’t get him.

1922
01:35:04,899 --> 01:35:06,739
So there’s something.

1923
01:35:13,409 --> 01:35:17,049
{\an8}(soft music)

1924
01:35:25,449 --> 01:35:27,119
(Geddy): We always
had a connection

1925
01:35:27,219 --> 01:35:29,019
rooted in goofiness.

1926
01:35:29,119 --> 01:35:30,619
And when we first met him,

1927
01:35:30,729 --> 01:35:33,029
he seemed like such
a strange character

1928
01:35:33,129 --> 01:35:35,799
thrown into this little duo.

1929
01:35:37,099 --> 01:35:39,039
But we were so lucky.

1930
01:35:39,129 --> 01:35:42,169
First of all, we were lucky
we found each other as kids

1931
01:35:42,269 --> 01:35:44,969
and were able
to grow up together

1932
01:35:45,069 --> 01:35:48,209
and be stupid for the rest
of our lives together.

1933
01:35:48,309 --> 01:35:52,049
And we’re lucky he walked
into that rehearsal space

1934
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:55,019
that day, I mean,
that big goof,

1935
01:35:55,119 --> 01:35:56,719
bounding out of the car.

1936
01:35:58,949 --> 01:36:01,749
So much of what
he wrote about, we lived.

1937
01:36:01,859 --> 01:36:03,859
- Yeah. Yeah.

1938
01:36:07,129 --> 01:36:08,969
- Thank goodness for it.

1939
01:36:11,329 --> 01:36:12,599
- Yeah.

1940
01:36:19,839 --> 01:36:23,539
Dude, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.

1941
01:36:23,649 --> 01:36:26,049
- Sincerely.
- It means a hell of a lot.

1942
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:28,589
- To me too.
- I gotta come here for a hug.

1943
01:36:28,679 --> 01:36:30,619
(laughing)
Thank you.

1944
01:36:31,919 --> 01:36:33,519
That was so awesome.

1945
01:36:33,619 --> 01:36:35,319
- Thank you.
- It was great.

1946
01:36:35,419 --> 01:36:39,089
- Well, I hope it did
tribute to our buddy.

1947
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:40,859
- Oh, I’m sure it did.

1948
01:36:40,959 --> 01:36:43,229
- Fuckin’ did, man,
thank you so much.

1949
01:36:43,329 --> 01:36:46,229
(soft music)

1950
01:37:23,241 --> 01:37:25,781
It felt special,
it felt like an honour,

1951
01:37:25,881 --> 01:37:27,781
playing with those drummers.

1952
01:37:27,881 --> 01:37:31,681
Alex and I have been
afraid of our own music.

1953
01:37:31,791 --> 01:37:34,091
We had put our music in a box

1954
01:37:34,191 --> 01:37:38,831
and left it as
a relic of the past.

1955
01:37:38,931 --> 01:37:40,871
And by playing them,

1956
01:37:40,961 --> 01:37:45,231
we realized that we
have 50 years

1957
01:37:45,331 --> 01:37:48,471
and a body of music
that is still alive.

1958
01:37:48,571 --> 01:37:50,671
(Alex): I was so inspired.

1959
01:37:50,771 --> 01:37:52,511
Geddy was very excited,
and he said, Al,

1960
01:37:52,611 --> 01:37:54,581
do you think there’s
a chance that we could

1961
01:37:54,681 --> 01:37:56,881
maybe do something together,

1962
01:37:56,981 --> 01:38:00,481
as Rush, you know,
what do you think?

1963
01:38:01,951 --> 01:38:04,621
- We knew that it’s going
to be an impossible job,

1964
01:38:04,721 --> 01:38:06,891
to replace Neil.

1965
01:38:06,991 --> 01:38:08,391
And we talked about it,

1966
01:38:08,491 --> 01:38:10,361
but it took a long time
to get to that point,

1967
01:38:10,461 --> 01:38:11,801
to go back out.

1968
01:38:11,891 --> 01:38:13,561
And a big part
of the motivation

1969
01:38:13,661 --> 01:38:16,431
was celebrating the music,

1970
01:38:16,531 --> 01:38:19,131
celebrating Neil.

1971
01:38:19,231 --> 01:38:21,801
And it would’ve been
much easier for us

1972
01:38:21,901 --> 01:38:24,401
to take someone
who grew up with our music,

1973
01:38:24,511 --> 01:38:26,051
knew all the songs,

1974
01:38:26,141 --> 01:38:30,581
but that would have opened
an endless conversation

1975
01:38:30,681 --> 01:38:32,681
about comparisons

1976
01:38:32,781 --> 01:38:35,751
between their former bands,

1977
01:38:35,851 --> 01:38:38,551
our band, Neil would’ve
played it different.

1978
01:38:38,651 --> 01:38:42,051
And so it was about
finding someone

1979
01:38:42,161 --> 01:38:44,761
that was out of context.

1980
01:38:51,401 --> 01:38:53,301
(Alex): We had heard of Anika

1981
01:38:53,401 --> 01:38:55,671
when she was on tour
with Jeff Beck.

1982
01:38:55,771 --> 01:38:57,441
She’s very, very skilled.

1983
01:38:57,541 --> 01:38:59,741
You know, she’s been a drummer
since she was a toddler.

1984
01:38:59,841 --> 01:39:02,581
Her father’s a musician.
It’s in her DNA.

1985
01:39:02,681 --> 01:39:05,251
But Anika is coming
into this alien world.

1986
01:39:06,511 --> 01:39:09,851
She wasn’t really a fan of
our music, so you know,

1987
01:39:09,951 --> 01:39:12,221
there was a lot of spooling
up she needed to do.

1988
01:39:14,561 --> 01:39:17,031
(Geddy): She comes from
a different genre of music

1989
01:39:17,121 --> 01:39:19,691
that’s a lot
swishier and jazzier.

1990
01:39:19,791 --> 01:39:21,861
But she’s a quick study, man.

1991
01:39:21,961 --> 01:39:24,201
(Alex): By the last day
of the audition,

1992
01:39:24,301 --> 01:39:25,871
she just nailed everything.

1993
01:39:25,971 --> 01:39:27,101
She got it.

1994
01:39:35,711 --> 01:39:38,281
(Anika): After the last
day of the session,

1995
01:39:38,381 --> 01:39:40,081
we actually sat together

1996
01:39:40,181 --> 01:39:41,581
and we talked

1997
01:39:41,681 --> 01:39:44,681
and Nick asked me if
I want to continue.

1998
01:39:44,791 --> 01:39:47,461
{\an8}And it was just like, wow,

1999
01:39:48,521 --> 01:39:50,691
{\an8}this... I got this gig.

2000
01:39:50,791 --> 01:39:52,291
It’s unbelievable.

2001
01:39:52,391 --> 01:39:53,831
It’s really happening.

2002
01:39:53,931 --> 01:39:55,701
(laughing)

2003
01:39:55,801 --> 01:39:59,401
It was clear really quick
that I have to learn 40 songs.

2004
01:39:59,501 --> 01:40:01,841
It’s just the amount
of complex songs,

2005
01:40:01,941 --> 01:40:04,811
my brain was full
and I felt, oof,

2006
01:40:04,911 --> 01:40:07,181
I cannot put more in it.

2007
01:40:07,281 --> 01:40:09,081
Your brain is doing
all the maths.

2008
01:40:09,181 --> 01:40:11,521
Five, seven, now three, okay,
let’s go.

2009
01:40:11,611 --> 01:40:14,181
Okay, here, seven again,
five again, okay.

2010
01:40:14,281 --> 01:40:16,081
And you’re running.
(chuckling)

2011
01:40:16,181 --> 01:40:20,691
I mean, I never met Neil
in person but he was big.

2012
01:40:20,791 --> 01:40:22,831
Strong, always
played powerful,

2013
01:40:22,921 --> 01:40:24,691
so I immediately hit the gym.

2014
01:40:24,791 --> 01:40:26,591
(laughing)

2015
01:40:26,691 --> 01:40:29,461
(♪ Animate ♪ by Rush)

2016
01:40:39,541 --> 01:40:42,681
I do feel responsible
for carrying Neil’s legacy.

2017
01:40:42,781 --> 01:40:45,751
And I wish I had
the chance to meet him

2018
01:40:45,851 --> 01:40:47,851
and I wish I had the chance

2019
01:40:47,951 --> 01:40:51,951
to have nerdy drum
talk with him, you know?

2020
01:40:54,591 --> 01:40:57,191
My biggest task is
to get the feeling right.

2021
01:40:57,291 --> 01:40:59,791
Besides all this
technical stuff and the play,

2022
01:40:59,891 --> 01:41:03,531
his feel was unique
and this is also a big part

2023
01:41:03,631 --> 01:41:05,131
of remembering him.

2024
01:41:05,231 --> 01:41:08,071
The more I play the songs,
the more I think,

2025
01:41:08,171 --> 01:41:09,671
gosh, this is genius.

2026
01:41:09,771 --> 01:41:13,871
It has to be played like this
because it’s so clever built.

2027
01:41:13,981 --> 01:41:17,021
Even if it’s driving me
crazy sometimes

2028
01:41:17,111 --> 01:41:19,851
to remember
all of those details,

2029
01:41:19,951 --> 01:41:22,751
I think it’s brilliant.

2030
01:41:28,091 --> 01:41:32,331
♪ Complicate me, elevate me ♪

2031
01:41:36,501 --> 01:41:41,141
♪ Complicate me, elevate me ♪

2032
01:41:44,841 --> 01:41:46,681
(producer): Rush is a band
with a fanbase

2033
01:41:46,771 --> 01:41:48,211
that literally
know every note.

2034
01:41:48,311 --> 01:41:50,011
- I know.
(producer): They’re crazy.

2035
01:41:50,111 --> 01:41:52,611
- They know it better than me!
(laughing)

2036
01:41:52,711 --> 01:41:56,481
I really try to not think
about that too much,

2037
01:41:56,581 --> 01:41:59,481
but of course,
as the first show comes close,

2038
01:41:59,591 --> 01:42:01,161
I get a bit more nervous.

2039
01:42:01,261 --> 01:42:05,361
I was good at putting
the pressure aside until now.

2040
01:42:05,461 --> 01:42:06,961
(laughing)

2041
01:42:07,061 --> 01:42:09,961
(crowd cheering)

2042
01:42:13,201 --> 01:42:14,771
- Thank you so much.

2043
01:42:14,871 --> 01:42:16,571
Thank you so much for coming,

2044
01:42:16,671 --> 01:42:20,011
thank you so much
for still being here.

2045
01:42:20,111 --> 01:42:22,411
(cheering)

2046
01:42:22,511 --> 01:42:25,481
We’d like to celebrate
50 years of music

2047
01:42:25,581 --> 01:42:29,481
that was created by that
schmendrick over there,

2048
01:42:29,581 --> 01:42:31,381
me, and, of course,
the great Neil Peart.

2049
01:42:31,491 --> 01:42:34,991
(cheering)

2050
01:42:35,091 --> 01:42:36,731
We’d like to pay tribute
to Neil tonight,

2051
01:42:36,821 --> 01:42:40,261
for so many reasons,
long overdue.

2052
01:42:40,361 --> 01:42:43,101
I’d love to introduce
you to some people

2053
01:42:43,201 --> 01:42:46,241
that are going to
help us pay tribute.

2054
01:42:46,331 --> 01:42:49,871
The highly gorgeous
Loren Gold.

2055
01:42:49,971 --> 01:42:53,641
And the marvellous
Anika Nilles, please.

2056
01:42:53,741 --> 01:42:56,611
(crowd cheering)

2057
01:42:56,711 --> 01:42:58,651
Okay, let’s get with it.

2058
01:42:58,751 --> 01:43:02,691
(♪ The Spirit of the Radio ♪
by Rush)

2059
01:43:39,891 --> 01:43:43,361
♪ Begin the day with
a friendly voice ♪

2060
01:43:43,461 --> 01:43:46,761
♪ A companion, unobtrusive ♪

2061
01:43:46,861 --> 01:43:50,661
♪ Plays the song
that’s so elusive ♪

2062
01:43:50,771 --> 01:43:54,041
♪ And the magic music
makes your morning mood ♪

2063
01:43:54,141 --> 01:43:56,611
(♪)

2064
01:43:59,411 --> 01:44:02,111
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